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fwd for fox suspension?

Reply #30
Should Tempo and good car, be used in the same sentence??:hick:
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

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Reply #31
Quote from: 5.0 bird;252512
The easiest option would be to just buy something that's already AWD like... the all wheel drive Tempo??? :wtf:

Or an AMC eagle, now those were good cars.


Well, there just one problem.  You see, the Tempo has two too many doors.  Another problem, it's too slow.  Wait, there's something else ... I just can't quite, oh yeah, now I remember.  It's a T.E.M.P.O.!:barf:

Please feel free to reread the above paragraph substituting "AMC eagle" for "Tempo".

If I'm going to to go out and buy a 4wd car, it's going to look and perform something like this.
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Reply #32
Quote from: t3skidoo;252508
oldraven,

The way it was explained to me X-Type > Lincoln LS > New Edge > Fox,
where ">" = "related to"

Maybe that should be "S-Type" instead of "X-Type"?

As for the Skylines, there are some nice looking examples and they can be built to really scream, but T-birds are better looking.  In other words, the answer to that classic question is "Ginger and Mary Ann."


Yes, that's the S-Type. The X-type was on a Mondeo chassis, which sat under the Contour/Mystique. The S-type is on a RWD chassis, which is a DEW (Lincoln LS/Retro-bird), not a Fox. The AWD X-type was on a FWD chassis, but Jag didn't feel it could sell a FWD in the US, so they developed an AWD system.

fwd for fox suspension?

Reply #33
How about like this.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

fwd for fox suspension?

Reply #34
What about using an MN12 pumpkin with struts, spindles, halfshafts, etc from a Lincoln Continental?
 
Only problem I see is where to put the pumpkin.

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Reply #35
That's not a bad idea. Some of those Continentals had the InTech 32V 4.6.
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Reply #36
Here's an idea. <--Famous last words.

Take the whole engine and trans from a fwd 3.0 duratec, like a taurus. Turn the whole assembly sideways. Now you have 1 cv shaft going forward and 1 going to the rear. You would likely want to change the final drive in the fwd transmission to the tallest one you can find, and use tall gears in the front and rear diffs. They use this set up with a 4 cylinder in custom rock buggies. You might have to cut the floorboard on the passenger side a little, but with the engine and trans pushed back as far as possible it would help weight distribution. Or you could use all that extra space up front for a fat turbo. Sounds pretty ambitious, but I think it's pretty ambitious wither way.

Weird, I have been thinking this same thing lately. I was gonna use an i-6 from a gmc envoy. It has hole in the oil pan for a front diff already.:evilgrin:

fwd for fox suspension?

Reply #37
just get a truck trans axle and make some clearance. Thats all awd is anyways. Throw a locker in there and maybe a truck tranny.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Reply #38
All I can think is MAJOR frame work. Where are the front axles going to pass though? Might be high enough now that I think about it.

Alot of work but it could be done. I am thinking the best place to start would be the AWD Aerostars, just a guess though. Never seen how they are set up. I think you are going to have more problems with room than anything.

With the extra weight what are you going to do for power? I am not positive on this but I though I read that Vulcan Aerostar trannies mount up to SHO 3.0/3.2. IF there was an AWD Vulcan powered Aerostar there you go. I am not positive on ANY of this though. Just dreaming.

Speaking of dreaming I need to make a thread of what I have been thinking up....
1986 Cougar LS

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Reply #39
Quote from: whitedevil666;253753
Here's an idea. <--Famous last words.

Take the whole engine and trans from a fwd 3.0 duratec, like a taurus. Turn the whole assembly sideways. Now you have 1 cv shaft going forward and 1 going to the rear. You would likely want to change the final drive in the fwd transmission to the tallest one you can find, and use tall gears in the front and rear diffs. They use this set up with a 4 cylinder in custom rock buggies. You might have to cut the floorboard on the passenger side a little, but with the engine and trans pushed back as far as possible it would help weight distribution. Or you could use all that extra space up front for a fat turbo. Sounds pretty ambitious, but I think it's pretty ambitious wither way.

Weird, I have been thinking this same thing lately. I was gonna use an i-6 from a gmc envoy. It has hole in the oil pan for a front diff already.:evilgrin:


Using axles for drive shafts? WARNING! THIS FLAG IS RED!

fwd for fox suspension?

Reply #40
Quote from: Kitz Kat;253671
How about like this.


Can you email me a full size pic of that? I lost the one I had back from when it was for sale.
1986 Cougar LS

fwd for fox suspension?

Reply #41
dakota suspention. independent with a fixed axel and half shafts

fwd for fox suspension?

Reply #42
I really think the best way to go would be a areostar suspension with a shortend drive shaft. You could set the body of the car on top of a ranger frame, or weld it into the inside to the floor. The aerostar has a unibody with a frame, based off of the ranger. It had a 4.0 v-6 optional, so I'll bet there would be a way to mount a 5.0 inside of it, possible using explorer parts, and all you would really have to do is modify the length of the of the drive shaft, and possibly even use your stock rear end and engine.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

 

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Reply #43
i also think the areostar suspention would be the best way to go. But looking at the AWD SC what i saw was it was already coilover suspention in the frount so the space where the frount springs on the fox were are now open to accept the halfshafts. But the only thing on the foxes would have to be fabbed up would be the upper controlling arm. and as far as a k member. yeah the stock fox one would be in the way. and as you see on the AWD SC the k member was fabbed anyway. I know that is not a stock part. Im unsure of what vehicle it would of come out of but it doesn't look that hard to fab. Yes it would be alot of work but very possible. And by the looks of it they did use the aerostar suspention on the frount of the AWD SC.
2001 Buick Regal LS (DD):hick:

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