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Cooling the fuel...

Sadly my car's throttle response is my only joy in life :disappoin ...That said, earlier I was thinking about wrapping the rubber fuel line from my pump to carburetor in reflective aluminum tape to repel heat (I've heard to people doing that).  But then I thought why not take that a step further?  I could easily bend up some brake line into a grill shape, I could even put hose fittings on the ends.  And I could hang that thing in the nose of the car with my fuel running through it.  Sound like a good idea at all?  It makes sense to me.
1983 Thunderbird-302 HO, Holley 650 CFM 4150 DP, Weiand Stealth Intake, Dual-Snorkel Air Cleaner,  Holley Fuel Pump, Procomp HEI Distributor, B&M Holeshot 2400 Converter, Custom 2 1/4 duals with no cats and BBK shorties, Taurus Fan Conversion, FMS Grill, much more to come....


"In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make" - Paris Hilton

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Reply #1
how about a decent sized fan to a heater core or two.
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I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Reply #2
Use a tranny cooler.
1980 birds X 3, 1982 bird, 1984 XR7, 1988 TC

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Reply #3
Just make sure whatever kind of cooler you decide to use is rated for high PSI and it's not going to leak and create a waffle-o-flames.

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Reply #4
Huh? 

Cooling the fuel is not going to gain you anything except for cold fuel. And you're not even going to get that using ambient air.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #5
If cold fuel isn't worth anything then what's a cold can for?  I know the heat of the fuel has an effect because I can observe it when I move the line around the engine compartment.

Good ideas guys.
1983 Thunderbird-302 HO, Holley 650 CFM 4150 DP, Weiand Stealth Intake, Dual-Snorkel Air Cleaner,  Holley Fuel Pump, Procomp HEI Distributor, B&M Holeshot 2400 Converter, Custom 2 1/4 duals with no cats and BBK shorties, Taurus Fan Conversion, FMS Grill, much more to come....


"In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make" - Paris Hilton

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Reply #6
Here we go.  A dedicated fuel cooler.
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1983 Thunderbird-302 HO, Holley 650 CFM 4150 DP, Weiand Stealth Intake, Dual-Snorkel Air Cleaner,  Holley Fuel Pump, Procomp HEI Distributor, B&M Holeshot 2400 Converter, Custom 2 1/4 duals with no cats and BBK shorties, Taurus Fan Conversion, FMS Grill, much more to come....


"In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make" - Paris Hilton

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Reply #7
There's probably a list of 20 things you should do before even futzing with that.  Hell taking a healthy dump would probably do the same for your acceleration at this point as cooling your gas down a few degrees. :hick:
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #8
By all means start a thread with those 20 things in it.  I'd read it ;) Temperature is the factor that keeps messing with my car.  If the temp is just right, the humidity is in check, the Moon is in Aquarius, and there's a Leprechaun lodged in the exhaust then the car's performance is snappy and really satisfying so I know that the potential is there.  It's just a matter of keeping the condition of the fuel and air as constant as possible, so say I :tg: A cold air kit would no doubt be a better notion but I couldn't afford one right now even if they made one for my car.
1983 Thunderbird-302 HO, Holley 650 CFM 4150 DP, Weiand Stealth Intake, Dual-Snorkel Air Cleaner,  Holley Fuel Pump, Procomp HEI Distributor, B&M Holeshot 2400 Converter, Custom 2 1/4 duals with no cats and BBK shorties, Taurus Fan Conversion, FMS Grill, much more to come....


"In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make" - Paris Hilton

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Reply #9
The fact that it's carbed is the problem with the car and its inability for adjust for environmental changes.  The fact that it's been 1000* with 500% humidity everywhere lately doesn't help matters either. If it's the middle of summer .... the performance will suffer.

If you aren't still using the original air cleaner assembly that draws from the fender...put it back on, or hunt down a dual snorkel one from a Mustang and stop allowing the carb to suck on hot underhood air.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #10
Long story short...unless you are getting vapor lock...cooling the fuel isn't going to add any power.

The density for gasoline (and most liquids) is relatively constant over temperature.

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Reply #11
Quote from: Chuck W
Hell taking a healthy dump would probably do the same for your acceleration at this point as cooling your gas down a few degrees. :hick:


well they do say 100 pounds is a 10th of your e.t.:D
1988 Thunderbird sport
2004 Ford F150 Lariat
2008  Chevrolet Cobalt Sport
2007 Suzuki DR-Z400S dual sport/Supermoto
1988 Thunderbird LX - sold
1988 Mercury Cougar XR-7 with GST kit - gone

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Reply #12
I'm aware of the limitations of my carburetor.  The stock air cleaner is still in place so the air is about as cold as it's going to get without a considerable aftermarket investment.
1983 Thunderbird-302 HO, Holley 650 CFM 4150 DP, Weiand Stealth Intake, Dual-Snorkel Air Cleaner,  Holley Fuel Pump, Procomp HEI Distributor, B&M Holeshot 2400 Converter, Custom 2 1/4 duals with no cats and BBK shorties, Taurus Fan Conversion, FMS Grill, much more to come....


"In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make" - Paris Hilton

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Reply #13
Factory air cleaners, as Chuck said, draw from the fenderwell just like a cold air intake would.

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Reply #14
Yes but half the benefit of a cold air intake (atleast so they say) is that they reflect heat away and are smoother inside than factory acordian style plastic tubes.
1983 Thunderbird-302 HO, Holley 650 CFM 4150 DP, Weiand Stealth Intake, Dual-Snorkel Air Cleaner,  Holley Fuel Pump, Procomp HEI Distributor, B&M Holeshot 2400 Converter, Custom 2 1/4 duals with no cats and BBK shorties, Taurus Fan Conversion, FMS Grill, much more to come....


"In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make" - Paris Hilton