Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #15 – June 04, 2017, 11:22:41 PM Quote from: Skunk;461087The block is actually a roller block fitted with flat tappet cam and lifters. Easily made full roller, which I believe began in 92 for the trucks.Johnmy research always said that trucks ran full roller in 94. my 93 F350 with a 351W that i tore down and went through last winter was a non roller, but the 95 351W i pulled out of a parts truck is a roller. All of my research points to the fact that the engine can be fitted with a roller cam. and that may be the route i go. Quote Selected
Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #16 – June 04, 2017, 11:24:25 PM Quote from: TurboCoupe50;461091 On some the spider bosses aren't machined or drilled/tapped but that's a minor issue...the holes are there, but not tapped. i should be able to take the spider setup off of this cougar engine, right? Quote Selected
Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #17 – June 05, 2017, 12:40:02 AM Quote from: bootleggers deluxe;461145the holes are there, but not tapped. i should be able to take the spider setup off of this cougar engine, right?Yup... The later blocks may well be tapped but I've seen a '85.5 truck block that wasn't...In spite of the gloom & doom a flat tappet cam isn't the end of the world... I actually have a small Lunati flat tappet cam in my Comet, AND it has a roller block... Quote Selected
Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #18 – June 07, 2017, 12:41:03 AM flat tappets made tons of power back in the day, im not oppsoed to using one, ive used several over the years. My cam brand choice has been Comp over the last decade or so. i seem to have good luck with them. good customer service as well.but, if i can easily swap the hardware to a roller cam, and i have to buy a new cam anyways, then yeah, i'll be looking at the roller cam.Back to the subject of 302s in general. Ive made my decision.I'm building 2 302s!i'm going to put together this truck block, using GT40P heads, and probably, at least for the time being, will go carbed. and i'll get the car on the road, having a good time. then I'll tear down the Cougar block, and go all out on stuff like a stroker crank and aluminum heads, and that will also buy me time to get the cougar harness sorted out, find the proper intake/injection setup, and overall just allow meto take my time and have more financial freedoms in the build.But right now, im gonna build a stout little 302 with the parts i have. I do appreciate the input. Quote Selected
Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #19 – January 05, 2018, 01:21:33 AM I decided to open up this thread again, because I ordered parts tonight, and decided that here is where i'm gonna keep note of what I'm doing with this engine.the cougar 302 was locked up solid. like an air hammer couldnt get the #1 piston to move. So, I pulled off the spider, the dogbones, and i did pull the lifters and pushrods as well, even tho im not goingto use them, and i ended up sending the 88 cougar block to the sper. The 91 truck block hasnt seen any action in the last 7 months, because I bought this on a whim.It's a 1968 Torino, 302, c4, no power steering, no power brakes, it was cheap, it runs great, and ive been having fun with it. When i first got the car, i actually pondered about giving up on my red T, and make this into the machine I had dreamed of the Red T being. I even started throwing parts at the engine.But it's coming full circle now. The Torino, while currently driving on the 302 with a Performer RPM intake, that Edelbrock 600 4 barrel, and a Summit HEI, is getting a 408 stroker engine, and those parts i put on the 302 will go towards the Red Tbird.thats the beauty, everything gets passed around when things are similar like that.so, to re-iterate, heres the build so far.91 truck block, stock bottom end.Gt40P headsCloyes Double Roller chain (still in the box)Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Edelbrock 600cfm carbSummit HEI conversion distributorMy plan is in the next few weeks to order an E-303 roller cam and roller lifters for the engine, and after a few more paychecks pass, order a set of roller rockers to go with the heads. I have heard some people say go with 1.6's, others say to go with 1.7's, care to put any input on what ones to run?So yes, the Red Tbird will live again, it will be the rough around the edges, low buck, hand me down parts beater I had in mind all along. The torino will grow into a much wilder, grumpier car. I'll still keep having fun. Quote Selected
Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #20 – January 05, 2018, 10:09:10 AM Quote from: bootleggers deluxe;464169 The 91 truck block hasnt seen any action in the last 7 months, because I bought this on a whim.It's a 1968 Torino, 302, c4, no power steering, no power brakes, it was cheap, it runs great, and ive been having fun with it. When i first got the car, i actually pondered about giving up on my red T, and make this into the machine I had dreamed of the Red T being. I even started throwing parts at the engine.But it's coming full circle now. The Torino, while currently driving on the 302 with a Performer RPM intake, that Edelbrock 600 4 barrel, and a Summit HEI, is getting a 408 stroker engine, and those parts i put on the 302 will go towards the Red Tbird.A whim eh?? '68-'69 Torino's are one of my favorite(big surprise huh?)...Before you buy that E303 take a look at the Trick Flow stage 1, I've had one since '99 and really like it... I'm using 1.7 rockers now that it's in the 331(ran 1.6 in the 5.0)... Yet to fire it but sooner or later it will happen... Quote Selected
Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #21 – January 05, 2018, 10:39:39 PM do you have a part number? preferably a cam/lifter setup? i replaced the springs in the gt40P heads with factory replacement springs, I'm really hoping to not have to change them again.very nice Fairlane. the Torino story comes along like this: growing up, the guy two houses down was building a 68 torino. At the time, it was 390, tri power, 4 speed. he still has the car, its now a 428 with edelbrock heads, but regardless, I always had a liking for the first gen Torinos.a "trading buddy" whom i seem to always be trading ford parts with, had the torino, he's the one that sprayed it all black, but he ran into some health issues, so i bought it from him. I kinda dig the fact that it's low option, a formal roof, and is just beat enough i dont feel bad about driving it in bad weather, but i would like to shape it up a bit eventually. if you could point me in the direction to find a hood and fenders for next year, PM me. But please, share the cam number here for all to see. :) Quote Selected
Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #22 – January 06, 2018, 10:07:08 AM The stock springs leave you with the same problem, which is binding with cams over .450 lift. Less if you use 1.7:1 rockers. Trickflow has a kit that won't bind up to .600 lift IIRC. Quote Selected
Which 302 to start with, and what to use for parts?? Reply #23 – January 06, 2018, 10:42:39 AM https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51403001 Cam was $139 when I bought it in '99, has just enough lope to be noticable...I used std Ford roller lifters, everyone I talked with was doing same... The springs on my Trick Flow heads were good to .540 lift, but have been upgraded to the .600 mentioned... For a 5.0 the 1.6 are probably enough... For a short while I had another T-Bird that had Windsor Jr heads and stock HO roller cam, was a dog compared to my TC... Quote Selected
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