My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM May 24, 2014, 02:08:46 PM We were on a good will mission to help one of our Boy Scoutmasters move this morning. I took my son Evan and Scout (the dog) for the adventure. We are taking to as many pet friendly places as we can so he can get used to the car, and not negatively associate it with only vet visits or the groomer. We arrived at the house, and on leash of course i put the leash on a fence post in the front where 20 of us were all busy loading and moving boxes etc. Evan took a break, sat down with Scout on his lap, still on leash and attached to the fence. Moments later a neighbors Pit Bull charged out of nowhere and jumped all over them both. Two adult leaders nearby ran over after my son was screaming for help and pulled the Pit off. It was not a vicious attack, but the shear weight and strength of that dog cut my son up pretty good, and Scout had to have a emergency visit to the vet. He was limping on his front left foot, and yelping if you lifted him. (It was pathetic) They are both going to be fine.Here is where the story gets disgusting. The Pit Bull owner, was the biggest asshole ever made. (Sorry for the expletive, no other word fit) Here is what went down:She comes out and first thing i tell her is, that i want to call a cop and have a incident report made out. She got very concerned about that. Not one word of concern for my son or the dog. She then says to me, so your going to sue me? I was mortified. How about, OMG are your child and dog ok? Im so sorry, what can i do? This never happens, it was an accident......you get the idea.She vanishes back in the house. Cops come, take the info, make a report, and i asked them to remain while i went back over to the house. I told her i don't know if either of them were bitten, i need the rabies and shot info ASAP, as in right now. She stalls me, and then cops an attitude and says i don't know where the papers are. I said whats your vets name/number? I don't have one, he is a shelter rescue. Call the rescue, they have the records, she gets them on the phone, and the dogs rabies tag expired 4/27. The shelter vet said it was ok, and that the vaccination was still good, it was more of a legal issue for the owner. At this point i was about to freak out. Then i regrouped and tried to be nice. I said to her, i need to rush the dog the emergency vet right now, why don't we begin with you paying the bill and start off on the right foot. Her reply was, i have no money and how do i know your 6 month old puppy did not have a limp already. She turned around, walked away and went back into her house. The police officer and i just looked at each other dumbfounded. I have no idea if she is the homeowner or a renter. I will not let this go. My son Evan is 12 and has autism, and i have no idea what this event will have done to him emotionally for months. He was the hero in this, he protected his puppy, and called for help. Brave is not even the word for him. I would have been terrified if 125 pound Pit Bull was on top of me and my 12 pound puppy. I have no issue with Pit Bulls or any large breed. If you live in a 400 acre ranch in Wyoming thats one thing, when you live in suburbia, you better make sure that your dog is fenced, leashed or be drippingly apologetic if the dog accidentally got out and caused a situation like this. They are very few bad dogs, there is animal abuse and it takes on many forms. These people do not deserve a dog, and furthermore i am appalled that this is only a matter for civil court. How many other people did she talk out of calling the police? Dogs like this can kill, and not even viciously mean to do so. Almost every Pit Bull that i have ever met from a responsible owner, was a well disciplined and sweet dog. I hate when any breed is singled out and persecuted. Rant over, thanks for listening. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #1 – May 24, 2014, 02:28:10 PM David the only thing i can say is hope you family and dog is OK. We have issues like this in our town with these dogs and i hate them. I know people say it is not the breed it is the owner that makes the dog aggressive but that is BS as those dogs are nuts powerful and can inflict serious damage to people and pets. They really should be strictly controlled and if i were you contact a good lawyer and sue the out of that lady. She clearly is nuttier than that dog. Hope everyone is ok as those dogs can inflict serious damage to a person. I really and truly believe the owners of those dogs have superiority issues and they think owning a dog like that is a status symbol. What a bad thing to happen to a young person. Hope he is not shook up over this. God Bless and tell you son he is the BEST.Here is the headlines from our local paper from last weekPolice Shoot Pit Bulls Attacking 11 Year Old BoyPit Bulls Savage 67 Year Old Woman Out For A Bike RideAshton Kutcher And Baby Mama Involved In Vicious Pit Bull Attack On Their DogPit Bulls Kill 4 Year Old, Wound Pregnant Mother Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #2 – May 24, 2014, 03:02:13 PM Quote from: TOM Renzo;434124David the only thing i can say is hope you family and dog is OK. We have issues like this in our town with these dogs and i hate them. I know people say it is not the breed it is the owner that makes the dog aggressive but that is BS as those dogs are nuts powerful and can inflict serious damage to people and pets. They really should be strictly controlled and if i were you contact a good lawyer and sue the out of that lady. She clearly is nuttier than that dog. Hope everyone is ok as those dogs can inflict serious damage to a person. I really and truly believe the owners of those dogs have superiority issues and they think owning a dog like that is a status symbol. What a bad thing to happen to a young person. Hope he is not shook up over this. God Bless and tell you son he is the BEST.Here is the headlines from our local paper from last weekPolice Shoot Pit Bulls Attacking 11 Year Old BoyPit Bulls Savage 67 Year Old Woman Out For A Bike RideAshton Kutcher And Baby Mama Involved In Vicious Pit Bull Attack On Their DogPit Bulls Kill 4 Year Old, Wound Pregnant MotherThanks for the kind thoughts Tom. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #3 – May 24, 2014, 04:00:50 PM God, what a BITCH!! I agree, I'd definitely seek legal action. BTW, my name is Evan too :-) Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #4 – May 24, 2014, 05:24:01 PM I'd sue her into oblivion just for being an ignorant pig. And I'd have animal control seize that dog so it can be properly tested if she refuses to be upfront. Chances are the dog does not have rabies, but that's juts it: chance. Better the dog suffer than the boy. Not saying the dog should be destroyed, but it should clearly be removed from the current owners and never returned.Not trying to take away from the seriousness of this, but this has Judge Judy written all over it. She'd eat that pitbull for breakfast... Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #5 – May 24, 2014, 06:09:36 PM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;434130I'd sue her into oblivion just for being an ignorant pig. And I'd have animal control seize that dog so it can be properly tested if she refuses to be upfront. Chances are the dog does not have rabies, but that's juts it: chance. Better the dog suffer than the boy. Not saying the dog should be destroyed, but it should clearly be removed from the current owners and never returned.Not trying to take away from the seriousness of this, but this has Judge Judy written all over it. She'd eat that pitbull for breakfast...I can have the dog seized right now, he is out of compliance for his rabies vac. If i thought this was a vicious attack i would make the call. I am going to call the owner and tell her she has til tomorrow at sundown to call me with the vac. update or i am calling the town to pick him up. I tried to be nice, it was to no avail. Lawyer call on Tuesday. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #6 – May 24, 2014, 06:15:42 PM Sorry to hear what happened to you.People moved in two doors down from me, and they have two huge mean pitbulls. They walk them, if that's what you can call it, the dogs drag the owner down the street. One day something is going to get those dogs' attention and the owner will be powerless to stop them. I wish there was something I could do, but I would be the one who ends up looking like the a-hole. It's sad, there's nothing that can be done if you only -think- a dog might do something. They keep them fenced, and they go nuts if anybody walks by. I don't mean just barking, NUTS. They bite each other they are so full of rage! I don't know why anybody would want to own such a ball of hatred. This is a nice quiet town, and people think they need vicious guard dogs. It's ridiculous how scared everybody is... Sorry for my rant, irresponsible dog owners are a major pet peeve of mine. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #7 – May 24, 2014, 09:29:17 PM Dave, call me. You know I have first hand experience with a similar situation which I'll not divulge online. I hope Evan and Scout are OK. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #8 – May 24, 2014, 10:06:31 PM I am very sorry to read this, David. I truly hope both of them are OK. I don't have anything against Pit Bulls as a breed, either. But my wife is a dog groomer and there is a reason she won't do Pits or Chows. Even if they are generally well mannered you never really know if they might snap. I DO have a major problem with py owners, though. I hope you get a positive resolution to this. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #9 – May 24, 2014, 10:49:31 PM When ever your around your son, praise him for his heroism. Its pretty traumatic being pounced on by one of those balls of muscle. Im 33 and don't want to fight a pit, let alone a kid. Thank god your son is ok, and let the LAW deal with that bitch of a lady. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #10 – May 25, 2014, 03:23:01 AM Matt, there is a section in "Boy's Life" magazine called Scouts in Action. I am submitting my son's story for entry, and possibly a bravery medal. He saved his dogs life.Thanks to everyone for the words of support and concern. We're all ok, just shaken up a bit, and perplexed at how a persons selfish nature was more important than the welfare of my child. I love animals, dogs in particular, and can understand the love and joy they can bring to the others. That being said, there are just some breeds that are not worth the trouble and risk of ownership, other than some selfish need on the part of the owners. When you think of what occurred here in a different context, imagine it this way:If my 4 year old Scarlett came over and kicked you in the knee, you would laugh it off, say how rude she was, and her parents need to teach her manners. If a grown adult male did the same behavior, you would call a cop on them, and probably visit the hospital too. Its exactly the same thing here. Its just a breed that can't get out of its own way. I have met friendly and sweet Pits that have knocked me to the ground kissing me and wagging tails, and i am a 6ft tall 190 pound adult male. There is just no good to be had here, and in opinion the risk factors are not worth the ownership. I would kill myself if my dog mauled and disfigured or killed a child or adult. What kind of person just has to own a dangerous dog? Have a look at the national bite/injury stats, they are self explanatory.http://images.bimedia.net/documents/...breed+2012.pdf Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #11 – May 25, 2014, 08:22:12 AM well, not sure whats going on up your way but down here, when this happens and just like when i lived in KY, the owner would simply put hte dog down right there.She should have collected her dog first to her back yard then you should have heard one pop from her gun.some breeds of dogs are consistently doing this.sorry about your situation she dragged you into and she may be right and have no monitary value for a law suit.I really dont know the politics of suburban living because i knew at an early age it did not suit the freedoms i knew i needed like where i grew up. I have heard about situations like this and other situations where cramming too many people in one spot causing conflicts. To be honest, i had a timber wolf / shepard mix and one of his instinctive characteristics was when he was excited and happy, he would make high pitched yelps. on more than one occassion when someone he loved seeing showed up to our house, the excited noises he made would trigger me to watch him close,, and part 2 is the dog did "love nips". The wolf breed does this nipping and yelping as forms of communications and i could prevent it by stepping in ,, calm the Fing dog down and all was well.in this case you just simply have a person who has never had to be nice to people in order to insure her survival, therefore she can be a an ass all her life and get away with it. Most people have never learned the hard way how to build relationships because of all the rules that help them not need thier neighbors or each other. i have to wonder what the reaction would have been if it were me and you saw me take the dog away only a minute later hearing me put the dog down.there is nothing other than this to do. dogs get a few chances in life to show they are not wreckless with thier dna, and this would have been the instant i put him down.,, then probably sued anyway for discharging a weapon in the neighborhood. Id rather get sued for that than to have a dog keep on dong this.this ass of a person is likely just another drain on society. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #12 – May 26, 2014, 01:04:33 PM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;434130Chances are the dog does not have rabies, but that's juts it: chance. Better the dog suffer than the boy. Not saying the dog should be destroyed, but it should clearly be removed from the current owners and never returned.It almost always ends up in death of the dog to do a rabies test....they have to sample the dog's brain matter for it...Not that I disagree, accidents of this type are an oxymoron...it's a behavior issue with dogs, or if the bitch owner can't control the dog she needs to have it put down. I'm a dog lover, but if any of mine attack or god forbid kill another dog, let alone a kid, I'll pull the shaging trigger myself. For that matter, I have before, so I feel I've a little room to criticize on this. Yes, that dog left ME scarred, both mentally and physically.Quote from: jcassity;434146well, not sure whats going on up your way but down here, when this happens and just like when i lived in KY, the owner would simply put hte dog down right there.She should have collected her dog first to her back yard then you should have heard one pop from her gun.some breeds of dogs are consistently doing this.Like I said, I love dogs, and have had several Pit Bulls over the years, but I agree. If the animal is vicious, or barks at people all the time menacingly, it's a ed time bomb. I tell you what, I carry a handgun pretty much everywhere, had that been MY kid, and MY dog being attacked, well, there would have been gun shots and that dog would have been dead. In Missouri, it wouldn't even go to court, provided the cirspoogestances were as in David's incident. With that said, I hope everything gets resolved to 101%, and the gal hopefully learns to be more responsible.One more little word; if that dog was a rescue, they or whoever didn't do a very ed good job of making sure he/she was socially acceptable with kids and other dogs, or else it's overly protective and unsecured. When I had my last two Bullies, I had to keep the male on a 5/16" aircraft cable whenever he was outside, or he'd simply chase everything that moved. Not maliciously, just to play, but I wasn't going to give him a chance to possibly harm someone. To his credit, the only thing he ever ruined was a 4 wheeler tire when I was riding, and I let him go with me.I had another one, barely a 7 month pup, she ate her way through a 5' chain link enclosure and killed 2 other dogs that were bigger than she was. Attacked me on sight when got to the scene. I had no choice to shoot her, my then wife was right behind me and would have been no match for the dog. And a lot of it is how the dogs are raised. Your average meth head, worthless piece of shiznit who has 3 Pits tied up in the back yard with no water and shade..well, his dogs will probably bite someone....My last Pit Bull was put to sleep last Summer, on 9/11 due to cancer. She was a good 'un. Right up to the day I took her to the vet, she was full of life and love for all of us, especially the kids. She'd always go to them and lay down so they could rub her belly.She was my baby, I had her from the time she was 7 weeks. But, not all dogs are like that, some are made to be mean, fearful, and territorial. The people that do this to them should be "knee-capped", if you know what I mean. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #13 – May 26, 2014, 09:16:47 PM MY83T, how is your boy doing? Your Pup??As for the where I live where you live matter. I live a bit upstate from the OP. In my neighbor hood you can here the boys shooting 22's on saturday's during the summer. And here deer hunters in the fall. I wouldn't have hesitated to put a .38 SP in a pit attacking my daughter, but in untill im truly in MY83T shoes who knows how Id react. When your kids being attacked who knows how rational you'd think. Id probably gone over and attacked the pit, then get mauled myself. But Id rather it maul me than my lil girl. I just hope for MY83T's sons sake that the attack doesn't damage his psyche too much. Keep building him up so he goes away from this horrible episode with a positive, he saved his pup. Don't let him dwell on the negatives, a massive piece of muscle attacking. Don't let him fear big dogs, but know that he Knows how to defend him self and his puppy. Quote Selected
My Son and Dog were attacked by a Pit Bull this AM Reply #14 – May 26, 2014, 09:49:24 PM Quote from: MechanicMatt;434199MY83T, how is your boy doing? Your Pup??As for the where I live where you live matter. I live a bit upstate from the OP. In my neighbor hood you can here the boys shooting 22's on saturday's during the summer. And here deer hunters in the fall. I wouldn't have hesitated to put a .38 SP in a pit attacking my daughter, but in untill im truly in MY83T shoes who knows how Id react. When your kids being attacked who knows how rational you'd think. Id probably gone over and attacked the pit, then get mauled myself. But Id rather it maul me than my lil girl. I just hope for MY83T's sons sake that the attack doesn't damage his psyche too much. Keep building him up so he goes away from this horrible episode with a positive, he saved his pup. Don't let him dwell on the negatives, a massive piece of muscle attacking. Don't let him fear big dogs, but know that he Knows how to defend him self and his puppy.Matt, and everyone else, thanks for the concern, support and comments. Here is the update on how everyone is doing.Evan is doing fine, and very proud of himself for protecting scout. He was ultra responsible today, taking him for his walks on leash, and cleaning up after him, feeding and brushing him. He is very devoted.Scout is not limping any longer, he is responding well to the anti inflammatory meds (prednisone) and appears to be on the mend. He is a little crabby and feisty on the meds. I finally spoke with the wife (the woman from the day of the incident) Her idiotic 1st question to me was, "How is my dog doing?" I asked her a few questions about her name, could barely get a straight answer, and her story was the dog is her ex-husbands, and was just there visiting for the day. I could barely take the bullshiznit anymore, and said i need to figure out what i am going to do here. I get a call 5 minutes later from her soon to be ex-husband. Night and day difference. He was sincere, apologetic, and did not know what to do for me 1st. I explained that my son had some scratches, and the issue is he has autism and some emotional issues, and that i fear the long term damage emotionally. He offered without condition to pay the vet bill, and out of pocket for my son. He wanted to take him someplace to buy him something special to make it up to him. He offered to have him meet the dog, who is basically a nonviolent galoot, and was just very excited and enthusiastic. I do not believe this was a violent attack, and had it been this would have turned out far differently. He agreed that the fault was his and not the dog, and i said the rabies vac being out of date was totally unacceptable no matter what i decide to do. Its a step in the correct direction, and he apologized profusely for the lies and stonewalling from his soon to be ex. We shall see if he makes good on his promises, and if he plays games i will sue him til he bleeds. Any medium to small dog that behaved in the same way, we would shrug it off, but because of the sheer brute size and power of this animal, a fairly innocent greeting turned into something far more scary and dangerous. This is a dangerous breed issue, and a responsible ownership issue, and it really needs to be addressed on a national level and there needs to be further debate. Here is a quote from a friend of mine regarding what he thinks needs to be done:"I think the best solution the government should come up with a law requiring all owners to have a mandatory liability insurance policy for All dogs. Then let the insurance companies decide the rates. You own a shiznitzu it's something like $5 a year. Own a pit bull and it should be $5k plus per year. Then let the dog owner argue with the insurance companies. No different than driving different model cars." Quote Selected
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