Which way do they GO ???

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Which way do they GO ???

Reply #15 – June 05, 2013, 12:45:44 PM

I agree. It's a decent thread, with good info on brake theory, but Chuck was right to move it. I don't think moving the thread hurts anything or makes it harder to find.

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Reply #16 – June 05, 2013, 01:27:19 PM

If you want, I can cull out the MC stuff and put it in a new thread in the proper tech forum. It'll have to be later on tonight, though.

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Reply #17 – June 05, 2013, 03:45:29 PM

Tom,

I'm curious as to who makes those brake rotors.

Not trying to say that what you stated is wrong for your application, but I know of at least one other company (Stop Tech) that offers rotors with the same (or very similar) vane pattern and they recommend mounting them in the traditional manner of having the top of the vane facing toward the rear.

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Reply #18 – June 05, 2013, 07:55:09 PM

No need Chuck it does not matter

You are correct some Vetts have a separate set of E Brake shoes and some do not. Personally i am dun with conventional cable E BRAKES. I hate them. Other than if you have state inspection i trash all that BS cable and pedal . The calipers you posted have the actuators. Those are very good also if you want to keep the E BRAKE Thanks!!

The rotors are made by Wagner. Or should i say they have a WAGNER PART #

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Reply #19 – June 05, 2013, 08:09:28 PM

calling WAGNER in the AM.

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Reply #20 – June 05, 2013, 08:15:19 PM

Dam i did it again .SORRY

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Reply #21 – June 05, 2013, 09:01:45 PM

Again...this is NOT Fox-specific tech, just general stuff. If you want to go through the details of a Vette brake swap on a Fox car, then fine. Showing a couple mods to mount a TA master cylinder to a Vette is neat and all, but it doesn't help the guy looking under the hood of his '86 Thunderbird.

As far as the rotor direction goes, default *should* be with the curved vanes angled towards the rear, UNLESS the rotors are stamped for a certain side of the car, or for whatever reason the manufacturer sees fit to spec. Yes, there are a few instances, OEM and aftermarket, that the rotors are installed "backwards" from convention. *shrug* If you're curious, ask them why. Otherwise just follow the directions.

As a side note, Vette Z06's came from the factory for a time with all LH rotors on them, so the vanes on one side of the car were wrong from the factory. Why? Probably because they didn't think it mattered enough for a street car. Who knows.

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Reply #22 – June 06, 2013, 05:25:25 AM

These are on the MIDNIGHTER. So i am posting this in the lounge. Sorry Chuck saying a modified system is FORD IN TO FORD in my view is narrow minded in my opinion. Choosing a brake system or modifying any system for that matter to fix an issue is not CAR LINE SPECIFIC. Why then do i see so many HEI distributors in ford engines?? Simple because the GM HEI is the best. Also why do so many Stand alone systems use GM sensors and coils. Simple they are better. Finding a Master for example is not car line specific. I posted a VETTE MOD to show how things can be dun. The same can apply to a ford dodge ETC. Showing ideas is what this is all about. It is not all about a single carline. Now i know this is a FORD SITE. But showing ideas is always helpful as it makes people think about things on a different level. Like the first guy that machined a GM HEI to fit a ford engine. With masters it is not about the car. It is about how to pick a cylinder. What is needed is a mounting procedure a stroke length fittings that are compatible and bore size. I know you know this. Well once again for some reason i am not getting the real message you are posting about. I now have it crystal clear in my mind where you are coming from. Thanks

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Reply #23 – June 06, 2013, 07:06:41 AM

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I now have it crystal clear in my mind where you are coming from.

No, you obviously don't, and calling me narrow-minded is laughable at best.

Tom, stop and read what I've written now, at least twice. I SAID, if you're talking about a conversion on a Fox with some of this stuff, then post it in tech. Seeing as this WHOLE thread had nothing to do with a Fox car, other than your mentioning of your PLANS to do a brake conversion of some sort on a Mustang with some Vette parts, I put it in the Lounge.

The average person cruising through this site is not going to see your post on the MC swap, or the rotor directions and not put 2 and 2 together and try and correlate that to their project. "I picked up a WS6 MC and I can't get it to work in my TBird like you showed it fitting." Like you, they won't actually READ what is posted.

So, you have Porsche brake calipers on your TBird. Cool. How about posting an actual tread in brake tech about what you did to install them on the car, instead of a pair of calipers sitting on a bench? THAT would be useful.

Posting to show "what can be done" is fine, but keep the posts in the tech section related to the what this site is about. Things posted that aren't applicable to the cars of this site, like putting Lambo brakes on a Pacer, while cool, do not belong in the tech section here. Installing Lambo brakes on a TBird, then yeah, that's applicable tech.

You understand yet?

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Reply #24 – June 06, 2013, 11:37:35 AM

Quote from: TOM Renzo;416679

Why then do i see so many HEI distributors in ford engines?? Simple because the GM HEI is the best.

And 97% of the folks who slap an HEI style dist., or even an MSD box have basically stock engines. What's the effin' point?

Too bad they don't (and probably won't ever) know that a stock Ford ignition will capably support well over 350 spower. I'm talking about the older 5.0 stuff, not brand new, today's cars.
You can have your HEI stuff. It's a hot spark, but in a stock engine, it's about the same as putting brand new socks on, then sitting around the house all without wearing shoes. Show me a dyno sheet where a 5.0 picked up 25 or 30 ponies and some good amount of torque from nothing BUT an HEI dist. swap, and I'll jump on that bandwagon. Same with an MSD setup.

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Reply #25 – June 06, 2013, 06:27:18 PM

Quote from: Chuck W;416681

No, you obviously don't, and calling me narrow-minded is laughable at best.

Tom, stop and read what I've written now, at least twice. I SAID, if you're talking about a conversion on a Fox with some of this stuff, then post it in tech. Seeing as this WHOLE thread had nothing to do with a Fox car, other than your mentioning of your PLANS to do a brake conversion of some sort on a Mustang with some Vette parts, I put it in the Lounge.

The average person cruising through this site is not going to see your post on the MC swap, or the rotor directions and not put 2 and 2 together and try and correlate that to their project. "I picked up a WS6 MC and I can't get it to work in my TBird like you showed it fitting." Like you, they won't actually READ what is posted.

So, you have Porsche brake calipers on your TBird. Cool. How about posting an actual tread in brake tech about what you did to install them on the car, instead of a pair of calipers sitting on a bench? THAT would be useful.

Posting to show "what can be done" is fine, but keep the posts in the tech section related to the what this site is about. Things posted that aren't applicable to the cars of this site, like putting Lambo brakes on a Pacer, while cool, do not belong in the tech section here. Installing Lambo brakes on a TBird, then yeah, that's applicable tech.

You understand yet?

No, he doesn't and NEVER will. He's proved this time and time again. Half this forum is now about chevy's and it's as though all he wants to do is convince every one that he is the ultimate and last word on any subject to arise. Why is it that those of you who has taken the time to create and administer to this forum would let some one else take it away from you and use it for his own, is beyond me. Let him take the time and effort to build his own forum then he can try to "DICTATE" it any way he pleases. Any one who disagrees with him he can call "stupid or dumb" or belittle THEM all he wants as long as they are willing to allow it. The only reason I am not willing to lay down and let him step all over this forum is because there are too many good, meaningful, and very knowledgeable guys here who get pushed aside only because of one person's ego and they are the one's who reached out to me to help. I have pretty much build my car from the ground up with the help of a lot of different guys here some being from the administration here, and I did it IN SPITE of the agitation and harassment of the one who is on about every thread on this forum trying to prove his superiority.

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Reply #26 – June 06, 2013, 06:32:07 PM

Quote from: Chuck W;416681

No, you obviously don't, and calling me narrow-minded is laughable at best.

Tom, stop and read what I've written now, at least twice. I SAID, if you're talking about a conversion on a Fox with some of this stuff, then post it in tech. Seeing as this WHOLE thread had nothing to do with a Fox car, other than your mentioning of your PLANS to do a brake conversion of some sort on a Mustang with some Vette parts, I put it in the Lounge.

The average person cruising through this site is not going to see your post on the MC swap, or the rotor directions and not put 2 and 2 together and try and correlate that to their project. "I picked up a WS6 MC and I can't get it to work in my TBird like you showed it fitting." Like you, they won't actually READ what is posted.

So, you have Porsche brake calipers on your TBird. Cool. How about posting an actual tread in brake tech about what you did to install them on the car, instead of a pair of calipers sitting on a bench? THAT would be useful.

Posting to show "what can be done" is fine, but keep the posts in the tech section related to the what this site is about. Things posted that aren't applicable to the cars of this site, like putting Lambo brakes on a Pacer, while cool, do not belong in the tech section here. Installing Lambo brakes on a TBird, then yeah, that's applicable tech.

You understand yet?

No, he doesn't and NEVER will. He's proved this time and time again. Half this forum is now about chevy's and it's as though all he wants to do is convince every one that he is the ultimate and last word on any subject to arise. Why is it that those of you who has taken the time to create and administer to this forum would let some one else take it away from you and use it for his own, is beyond me. Let him take the time and effort to build his own forum then he can try to "DICTATE" it any way he pleases. Any one who disagrees with him he can call "stupid or dumb" or belittle THEM all he wants as long as they are willing to allow it. The only reason I am not willing to lay down and let him step all over this forum is because there are too many good, meaningful, and very knowledgeable guys here who get pushed aside only because of one person's ego and they are the one's who reached out to me to help. I have pretty much build my car from the ground up with the help of a lot of different guys here some being from the administration here, and I did it IN SPITE of the agitation and harassment of the one who is on about every thread on this forum trying to prove his superiority. DUN!!!

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Reply #27 – June 06, 2013, 10:02:11 PM

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Reply #28 – June 06, 2013, 10:12:13 PM

Quote from: TOM Renzo;416701

Here is a car that is the most famous T Bird on the planet. One of the most sough after cars in existence . Care to tell me who owned it 86.
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What do you contribute to the TECH PAGES. NOTHING So tell me who this car belonged to.

Who shagin cares? Do these pop quizzes really entertain you?

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Reply #29 – June 06, 2013, 10:37:12 PM

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