Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #15 – May 07, 2013, 05:26:17 PM I think there are several reasons: First, there is no denying that Facebook has taken a bite out of the posts here (as well as many other forums). I think forums are a slowly dying breed, along the lines of the once extremely popular IRC and ICQSecond, as mentioned, these cars are aging. Because they're aging they're becoming less common, so we're not having as many people joining with questions about how to keep their $500 beaters running. Probably 80% of the members this board has ever had joined just to ask a question about their "new" Thundercat or to sell a car or part. We're not seeing this so much now, and the regular, long-term members just don't have as much to post aboutThird, and related to the first: The PC platform is dying, and forums are optimized for this platform. Smartphones and tablets, and their dedicated social media apps, are taking eyes away from this and most other forumsFourth: Many long term members have simply either sold or lost interest in their old Thundercats. Hell, I'm an admin and haven't owned one for almost three years now (though this is only because the right one hasn't come along). People have gotten older, gotten busier, etcAnd fifth, the elephant in the room: Yes, the constant bickering and nitpicking among certain members (I am NOT naming names here, and am going to point out that it always takes at least two to argue) has certainly turned a lot of people off. This site has always been extremely generous with what is allowed and/or tolerated. While this can be a good thing and usually is (nobody likes over-moderated forums, where you're afraid to fart for fear of being banned), unfortunately it has also resulted in some people taking liberties with this policy and mucking it up for everyone else. Once again, I'm an admin here and even I don't often post in tech threads anymore, even when I know the solution to a problem, because I don't want the arguments that will almost certainly ensue because certain people have certain ways of doing things and will hear no other ways (I have a brother much like that). In fact I rarely even look at tech threads now because I know it'll already be full of arguing and don't have the time or heart to deal with it. It's a shame that a few people have done this to the site, but the opposite extreme, with people getting punted left and right would not be a good alternative. I keep holding out the faint hope that these people will either smarten up or go away, but so far such hopes have been in vain... Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #16 – May 07, 2013, 05:48:21 PM I have owned my thunderbird since 2006, it was a project/first car with my dad and although after getting my license last year and driving the bird around as a daily driver I still like the car. It's getting rock chips and has already been in 2 accidents with careless drivers, is breaking down every once in a while and all the usual things. The car is still a blast and gets looks all the time. Being a 17 years old I think it's important to own an old(er) car, you learn your way around the car when something breaks you learn how to fix it, it's the experience/ memories that I like about the car. The forum is just a nice addition with many helpful individuals, sure there is arguing but I dont think it's that bad that i wouldn't visit the forum anymore it's cool to check out all the projects and resources that members are sharing with each other. Being in California is also not that great since most of you guys are across the country so we can't hangout like the Mustang, Camaro, Honda guys of my generation do. The forum is just cool I visit it 3-4 -5......10 times a day to see if anything is new. Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #17 – May 07, 2013, 05:53:43 PM what's Facebook?I haven't owned a pc in 4 years and I visit very regularly.hope I'm not one of the shiznit starters that need to leave... Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #18 – May 07, 2013, 06:16:33 PM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;414643I think there are several reasons: First, there is no denying that Facebook has taken a bite out of the posts here (as well as many other forums). I think forums are a slowly dying breed, along the lines of the once extremely popular IRC and ICQAre there places to discuss Fox Tbirds/Cougars on Facebook? Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #19 – May 07, 2013, 06:27:15 PM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;414643And fifth, [COLOR="red"]the elephant in the room: Yes, the constant bickering and nitpicking among certain members[/COLOR] (I am NOT naming names here, and am going to point out that it always takes at least two to argue) has certainly turned a lot of people off. This site has always been extremely generous with what is allowed and/or tolerated. While this can be a good thing and usually is (nobody likes over-moderated forums, where you're afraid to fart for fear of being banned), unfortunately it has also resulted in some people taking liberties with this policy and mucking it up for everyone else. Once again, I'm an admin here and even I don't often post in tech threads anymore, even when I know the solution to a problem, because I don't want the arguments that will almost certainly ensue because certain people have certain ways of doing things and will hear no other ways (I have a brother much like that). In fact I rarely even look at tech threads now because I know it'll already be full of arguing and don't have the time or heart to deal with it. It's a shame that a few people have done this to the site, but the opposite extreme, with people getting punted left and right would not be a good alternative.[COLOR="red"]I keep holding out the faint hope that these people will either smarten up or go away, but so far such hopes have been in vain.[/COLOR]. You know I have a problem with that, especially after contributing to maintain the site... It's the main reason I haven't been around much over the last couple years, the fun and comradely just are no longer here... [COLOR="black"]None[/COLOR] of the other sites I visit would have put up with the shenanigans that happen here(and no for the most part they are not over moderated), it would have been "straighten your ass up or you're history"... Some boards have a 30 day suspension policy that on a second or third warning is invoked, for the most part it works... For those it doesn't, well they aren't there any longer...Anyway I've decided to have this shag with me and you're going to get it back attitude, maybe we can run off the remaining members... Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #20 – May 07, 2013, 06:32:40 PM Quote from: TurboCoupe50;414650You know I have a problem with that, especially after contributing to maintain the site... It's the main reason I haven't been around much over the last couple years, the fun and comradely just are no longer here... [COLOR="black"]None[/COLOR] of the other sites I visit would have put up with the shenanigans that happen here(and no for the most part they are not over moderated), it would have been "straighten your ass up or you're history"... Some boards have a 30 day suspension policy that on a second or third warning is invoked, for the most part it works... For those it doesn't, well they aren't there any longer...Anyway I've decided to have this shag with me and you're going to get it back attitude, maybe we can run off the remaining members... same reasons why i don't come around anymore. you hit the nail on the head. Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #21 – May 07, 2013, 06:44:26 PM Facebook is great for brand new stuff, people posting updates on their cars etc.but try find anything older and you can forget it.Forums have the advantage of being better organised and easier to search, just less of the cars around these days.but in saying that, it means that those are being built, should be of better quality :D Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #22 – May 07, 2013, 09:18:44 PM I'm sure most of you are talking about the way I handled my self lately. I do appreciate the fact that nobody here has called me out by name or for that matter has really said anything bad about what took place other than your all tired of it. Me too! I really like this forum and have always appreciated the knowledge here. I got tired of always being hammered by a certain individual and I left this forum for about two months hoping it would be better when I came back to ask questions. Most of what I have learned about working on this Cougar is about every thing I know about cars and I learned it here from a lot of you who have been patient with me and helped me out. I know about 1/50th about my car compared to most of you. Problem is it seems when I ask a question the same silver back gorilla always climbs on my back. If you haven't noticed I went back and erased my posts that I felt were not appropriate and apologized. I'm sure if those of you have seen the before and after pictures of my car you would know that I'm not trying to jerk anyone around and that I have put in some blood, sweat and tears working on my car not to mention a lot of money in it. I can also guarantee that I work mostly by trial and error and that is a hard way to learn and it is slow. So, here is half of your white elephant stepping out in plain sight, probably looking down the barrel of a few rifles...so be it. Quote Selected
Maybe this will help lighten up the spirit around here. Reply #23 – May 07, 2013, 10:52:56 PM I lol'd so hard at this I had to share. Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #24 – May 08, 2013, 12:08:32 AM I have been a member here for 8 years....10 years on NATO and turboford.org.This is a pretty good site. Not as nice as NATO...but nicer than TF.That being said I have owned a tbird, cougar, or regal in one shape or other for 22 years.Being that I'm 38 that says something. Love the big coupes, my children don't mind getting in the back seat!Besides they love the power! :-)I have owned quite a few newer rides...gxp, sho, diesel rams, Chevy trucks, crown VictoriaBut I always come back to the big coupes. I have met some really good people from these forums.Yeah the grumpy types can be a drain...but such as life....and the internet.Our cars are reaching the end of there daily driver life's...which is fine....But the 426 hemi sites are already there and have trouble with members....blah blah blah.ThanksTravis Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #25 – May 08, 2013, 12:18:45 AM What I remember on here was how much we all joked and kid around all the time. Posting jokes, etc. It was all the time. I remember visiting here just to get a good laugh each day, lol. Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #26 – May 08, 2013, 11:16:30 AM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;414643 the elephant in the room: Yes, the constant bickering and nitpicking among certain members (I am NOT naming names here, and am going to point out that it always takes at least two to argue) has certainly turned a lot of people off. This site has always been extremely generous with what is allowed and/or tolerated. While this can be a good thing and usually is (nobody likes over-moderated forums, where you're afraid to fart for fear of being banned), unfortunately it has also resulted in some people taking liberties with this policy and mucking it up for everyone else. Once again, I'm an admin here and even I don't often post in tech threads anymore, even when I know the solution to a problem, because I don't want the arguments that will almost certainly ensue because certain people have certain ways of doing things and will hear no other ways (I have a brother much like that). In fact I rarely even look at tech threads now because I know it'll already be full of arguing and don't have the time or heart to deal with it. It's a shame that a few people have done this to the site, but the opposite extreme, with people getting punted left and right would not be a good alternative. I keep holding out the faint hope that these people will either smarten up or go away, but so far such hopes have been in vain... I believe there is one main culprit that is always in an argument regardless of who else is arguing. As you had said, it takes at least 2 people for an arguement. Unfortunatly, I must admit to my part of it. I have stopped visiting the site as much as before, and have limited my posts. Funny thing is, in my absense, the bickering continues. An arguement about oil filters...........really? I find most of my info I need now from Coolcats. Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #27 – May 08, 2013, 11:51:22 AM There is a lot to know about oil FILTERS!!!I find this interesting as some people do not want info that they actually ask for . It seems like they wait for someone to post what they want to hear. Normally that is the facts. No one wants to hear what they did is not correct or dooms day for their car. So they wait for an answer that is in line with there thinking. That is what happened with the filters. I posted cut open filters to show the difference and then the post stopped. Some posted that they only change oil once a year. And from people that are really knowledgeable. So it is like i said people wait for the answer they want to here. With that all the sites i visit seem to be the same. Me personally I post things i think are correct as other do also. I personally HATE certain kinds of cars others do not. And some actually own cars that i think are . Bottom line people like me in the car business only see cars when they are broken. Not cars as a hobby or a Sunday driving vehicle. So i tend to go over bord on repairs. Thunder Chicken is like me he makes his living with cars and he generally agrees on things with a different perspective. Just meAlso with Gas at or around 4 bucks a gallon no one really wants an old clunker gas guzzler these days. So in the future when these big cars as i have been told several times by people and they call them GAS GUZZLER. Will eventually die out. And then whenever i pull up to a gas pump there are still people that tell me they had the exact car when they were young. With that i give them my standard answer. NOPE YOU DID NOT HAVE ONE LIKE THIS ONE!!! Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #28 – May 08, 2013, 03:27:46 PM I come on every day just to see if Vinnie changed his intake! Quote Selected
Why is it so quiet in here? Reply #29 – May 08, 2013, 04:28:04 PM Quote from: Kitz Kat;414704I come on every day just to see if Vinnie changed his intake! So true! Some of my projects have been stalled while I prepare a vehicle for sale. Sure I could list it as-is (while pulling my stereo and reinstalling the factory one), but I spend time fixing up blemishes, getting rid of rattles, etc, to make the sale easier, and make the new owner happier with the purchase. Changing daily drivers, being busy with work, and spring time outdoor yard maintenance means my time gets shifted around differently. Everything will get much easier when I don't have 4 cars to move around to make use of my garage with room for 1.I still haven't finished everything I wanted to do after the head swap. My tubular intake is still waiting for polishing. Since bolting everything together and changing the oil, the car gets moved in and out of the garage but that's it. I haven't bolted the air cleaner back in place, re-routed wiring that is out of place, etc. Hell, I need to plug in my wideband and get some datalogs of the vehicle so I can adjust the tune. Then there's the now-noisy cat that needs to be replaced - new mid-pipe for me! Lots of work that I'd like to do, but spring time is always busy, and having picked up a new car weeks ago means there has been a lot of other work needed, and dmv trips. I've been swamped. Quote Selected
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