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Exhaust upgrade?

Reply #30
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Exhaust upgrade?

Reply #31
Tom,

Not too far off topic but what about coatings versus wraps?  Let's ignore the cost difference and just look at performance differences.  Would there be any benefit to wrapping or coating just certain components of the system or if money was no object would you want to wrap/coat the entire system?

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #32
Sorry for the confusion there, I brought turbo cars into this when we were talkin stock 5.0 setups. I was refering to my nissan skyline it gained huge results from removing all the  that was in the exhaust path. I put 3 inch mandrel bent exhaust on all my turbo cars. The different piping is just cause that is what I had laying around for the skyline.

On my 347 stroker naturally aspirated tbird I insisted on 3 inch dual exhaust with no h or x pipe, the guy building the engine argued with me. I was a little disappointed at the drags, so he talked me into an xpipe setup with dual 2.5 piping, man big difference!

so now my next question is do supercharged cars still need the x pipe, turbo cars merge the exhaust before the turbo so that is taken care of but what a blower car?

My buddy is putting a 6-71 on a stroked 5.0 and he was wondering about the exhaust setup on that.

He was thinking long tube bbk headers, then just running lers with side pipes exiting in front of rear tires. Is the x pipe needed on this application? Some guys say yes some are saying no, but I'd like to know from someone who ACTUALLY HAS a blower on their ride.

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Reply #33
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HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Exhaust upgrade?

Reply #34
OP wanted to know about upgrading his exhaust, not a already-beaten-to-death discussion on opinions of exhaust size in relation to unfelt power loss.

In other words...the usual thread-shiznitting.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #35
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I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Exhaust upgrade?

Reply #36
Order replacement tailpipes for a 5.0 lx mustang from a parts store. Get two lers of your choice, and some stock stang shorties with a mark 7 h-pipe. It should all bolt together and cost less then your $400 if you do the work yourself. The mark7 h-pipe has hols near the header so you don't need to legnthen any wires or move the o2's.

I ordered a 4 banger mustang tailpipe for my thunderbird for $60, the cat to ler pipe for $40, and threw on a $20 cherry bomb. I was into it cat back for $150, and it fit like stock.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #37
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I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Exhaust upgrade?

Reply #38
Post 2 has pretty much all the pertinent info...do people not even read? Just see a thread title and suddenly lose 95% of their intelligence quota?
WTF.

Then we have talk about exhaust pipe size on a turbo car...opinions are rampant, with no factual info posted for proof.

If you can't answer someone's question accurately, succinctly, and with factual info, GTFO.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #39
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I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Exhaust upgrade?

Reply #40
Quote from: TOM Renzo;410467
You do realize the mustang tail pipes are to SHORT for a T BIRD or Cougar. A lot shorter !!!!! You have to make them longer to work correctly


I ordered a 4 banger mustang tailpipe for my thunderbird for $60, the cat to ler pipe for $40, and threw on a $20 cherry bomb. I was into it cat back for $150, and it fit like stock. NOPE!!!


Have you ever used mustang pipes on a T BIRD OR COUGAR STACKS. They are to SHORT.    Well what can i say!!!


 

:mullet::toilet::rollin:

Ever try to order a tail pipe for a cougar/tbird?

When my buddy bought this car, an exhaust shop wanted $400 to fix the exhaust. After pricing it out on the tail pipe, we decided it would be much ceaper to get inventive with the mustang tail pipe. Now here's the funny bit, using the old cheap glasspack looking ler, the offset was a bit off, but the tailpip was the perfect length and bolted right to the existing cat. After it was put together, he had an exhaust shop weld the clamps so it wouldn't come off or leak again.

The mustang tailpipes are the perfect length, its the midpipes that are too short. You can see this in the wheel base differance between cars. Running the longer "turbo" ler made up for the extra room.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #41
I've got to go with Tom on this one.  The Mustang mid-pipes ARE shorter by about 4 inches, but the tails are shorter by about 8.  For guys that want to hide their tails, this is usually either extended a small amount or left alone as GT tails, like 4 cylinder tails, have a turndown at the end. Guys who want a visible exit usually use LX tails (straight exit and lower mounting) and put long tips on to get the right length.  This is an established fact on this board, and I personally have done many of these during my years in undercar shops.  I'm not saying it won't work, but it don't look right.  The exit would end up halfway between the wheel and the bumper.

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Reply #42
My turn down is about 2" short of the bumper. The mustang hangar even lined up with the exsisting tbird tail pipe mount, although it was a different style.

I'm not arguing, I'm just saying what I have done.

Went down to autozone, ordered a mustang tail and mid-pipe, hooked it up. It was my buddies car at the time, and he didn't want to have to wait for an offset ler, so we used a cherry bomb.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Exhaust upgrade?

Reply #43
Well
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Exhaust upgrade?

Reply #44
I wonder if the replacement I ordered was cut to fit? This would give some length in the mid-pipe area.

The hump in my tail pipe is in about the right place, and it was not extended. Maybe I'll call my buddy up and see if h remembers ordering it for a mustang. I'm 95% sure that's what we did.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com