is there any interest in January 05, 2009, 05:31:37 AM heavy duty headlight harnesses?yes, i already got yelled at for this once, but its 530 in the morning and i dont really care lol.i'm doing the electrical work on an '87 crown vic resto mod, and the next thing on my list happens to be the headlight and aux light harnesses (although in this case they will be one harness, since my buddy wants his aux lights in the grille).early fox's were 4 eyes, same as all the box body panthers. and being ford, well....they had py wiring.i have no examples at this time, but the parts should be in for me to build the harness by wed or thurs. pics will be taken of course.so would anybody be interested? these would be complete headlight harness replacements.no py crimp connectors or the like, i'm soldering connections, using new plugs, using bosch relays, and 10-12 gauge wire for everything, all convienently tied up in shiny black loom.tom's car is getting brandy new (imported i believe) Hella glass lense conversion headlights with hella bulbs, and while we prolly could get away with using the stock harness, we'd really rather not run the current through the switch. them switches are hard to find ya know.so parts should be here wed or thu, i should have the harness done by weeks end, and pics posted subsequently with a total cost.lemme know.p.s., i do warranty my work. Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #1 – January 09, 2009, 04:48:28 AM Absolutely. Any idea what the completed harness with headlight conversion will cost? Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #2 – January 10, 2009, 03:21:22 AM i will know in a couple days. parts started coming in, i still need to run into town for a spool of wire.once its done, i'll post pics and a total. Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #3 – January 10, 2009, 09:55:34 AM Building wiring harness' from scratch is fun. I thought about offering a similar service, but I hardly have enough time to work on my own cars. Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #4 – January 10, 2009, 10:52:58 AM Quote from: Tbird232ci;251039Building wiring harness' from scratch is fun.Try doing it for a living. It stops being fun in short order, although it remains interesting. I will admit that doing so has definitely taught me a lot (and also gave me a source for factory-style parts, such as fuse & relay boxes). I'd hate to be the poor that ever had to do any work on the wiring in my car - custom headlight & fog light wiring, custom ignition switch wiring, custom stereo wiring, custom tail light wiring, custom alternator wiring... and coming soon, even more custom tail light wiring (I want to make it so the brake light switch doesn't carry the load of the brake lights, after burning up a wire while towing a trailer)Thankfully I have zero faith in my memory, so I've documented all of my wiring mods :D Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #5 – January 10, 2009, 12:33:58 PM hey Thunder Chicken, just wanted to say i did check your site before i posted this, so i didnt impose upon what you do lol Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #6 – January 10, 2009, 02:19:05 PM When I say I build harnesses, I mean for cop cars, not these cars. I take a bare bones P71 Crown Vic and turn it into a police car, which requires making up wiring harnesses. Each car is different. I've got a "base" harness that I make up for each car that includes provisions for roof lights, flashing head & tail lights, radio and siren, to which I add features for individual cars (such as computer, camera, etc). Most cop cars are pretty straightforward, but some of them can get pretty involved - one cop car I did, which was the pinnacle of my creativity as far as cop cars are concerned, had 18 strobe lights, three strobe power supplies, a computer and wireless modem, GPS system (interfaced through the computer), front and rear cameras, three radios (police, fire, and CB), a scanner, front and rear radar, a "light kill" switch that killed the brake lights (for liability reasons I installed a buzzer that goes off whenever the brakes are on but the kill switch is on, so the officer doesn't forget), daytime running light kill switch, driving lights (with flashing function), traffic advisor, auxiliary backup lights , side lights, and even flashing lights in the trunk! It was a $50k build on top of the price of the Crown Vic. The harnesses I made up were over 1.5 inches thick running down both sides of the car (most equipment installs in the truck with only the controls/interface mounted up front). I don't know what the weight of the equipment I installed was, but I'd bet it'd be north of 500 pounds. There was probably 100 pounds of copper alone. It was so expensive that even though the car was built five years ago it's still in service. Usually they only keep 'em 3 years, but this one was special. It's also a moneymaker. The only reason this cop got away with requesting all of this is that he writes lots and lots of tickets. He convinced the detachment that he needed all of this equipment to continue writing tickets safely.It'll probably be the last one built like this, too. Since this car was built the RCMP have switched over to a SmartSiren system that integrates many of these functions (lights, traffic advisor, siren) into one unit that communicates to the trunk mounted "brain" via serial connection. What was once an inch and a half thick harness is now a CAT5 cable.Some pics of the car detailing most of the equipment (note that all the strobe lights are not visible in the pic - it is impossible to photograph multiple strobes with a still camera without having a long exposure time, which would result in overexposure anyway): Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #7 – January 10, 2009, 02:22:31 PM i didnt see that stuff on the site. i meant i looked to see if you were doing headlight harnesses lol. Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #10 – January 10, 2009, 02:33:19 PM ...and more. The last pic is one of a clamp-on ammeter showing what the alternator is putting out with all of this stuff turned on. I took this pic and submitted it to dispatch to show them I didn't think the car's stock charging system would handle it. Gotta hand it to Ford, the stock 135-amp alternator is still kicking after almost 200k miles! Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #11 – January 10, 2009, 04:10:19 PM daaaayum... that's nuts! Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #12 – January 10, 2009, 05:49:29 PM thunderchicken, impressive, i just have one question.i see three different light kill switches. my question (and i'm not being a dick, i'm just genuinely curious) is why didnt you go with a 3 terminal on/off? they do have them, and it would have made for a quicker stealth mode. i've done it to a couple cars of mine :D was great for playing cb tag out in the sticks. :D Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #13 – January 10, 2009, 08:22:54 PM Because the officer wanted to be able to kill the lights individually. He even specified the types of switches (something he could easily feel around for in the dark, hence the toggles. The brake kill switch is a plastic toggle that feels different, so he wouldn't confuse it). DRL kill would be handy for sitting on the side of the road with the engine idling, brake light kill would be useful to prevent people seeing him about to turn around (or see him press the brake to shift out of park), and the stock light switch can kill the rest.I do make a "blackout module" that kills all of the lights or only selected ones, but it's not available to the public, so it isn't on my site (and didn't exist when this car was built). Each module is custom built for the car it's going into and the functions the officer wants. I don't sell a module that kills brake lights to the public for obvious liability reasons, and even then I only sell it to Mounties or other enforcement agencies after the person in charge of the detachment's cars has signed a waiver. The blackout module features a built in buzzer for when the brake lights are in stealth mode, and it automatically resets when the car is shut off, meaning the officer has to make a point of disabling his brake lights each time he starts the car....And by "selected ones" I mean that even individual bulbs can be killed (such as one headlight or one tail light), to fool a person into thinking a different vehicle is following them. Imagine driving along at night with a car behind you. The car backs off out of sight (or pretends to turn off), then the next thing you know, you've got a car with a burned out headlight behind you. Most people wouldn't think it's the same car following 'em. That one is particularly popular with Dept of Fisheries officers, who often sneak down to the docks after dark to catch fishermen unloading illegal fish :hick: Quote Selected
is there any interest in Reply #14 – January 10, 2009, 08:31:15 PM illegal fish? what are they swimming up the creek from mexico without a dof approval? lolj/k lol.i suppose i can see the individual kills now. i still find it easier to just kill all at once. personal preference lol.anywho, i picked up the wiring today, the fuse block came in yesterday, and the relay bits and headlight connectors should be here...mon or tues.updates to come then! Quote Selected
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