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Here we go again, update nov 5

Alright, I got some parts from kitsnmd for stock top end parts. I got some e7's off a 92 cougar and a new gasket kit. I cleaned the block and surfaces all day yesterday and picked up some new gaskets. Today all I have to do is replace the oil pan gasket( Tore it when I pulled the timing chain cover off) and put her all back together.

Its pretty sad when you can pull everything off the block, including timing chain and cam in less then 3 hours, but you have to spend about 5 just cleaning off gaskets.

The "new" push rods I got were just a hair shorter then the old ones, and the "new" cam is in alot better shape, as well as the rollers. Hopefully, all I have to do is throw all the  back in, fire her up, get her timed and drive home.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #1
Good luck.It does take time to clean all the surfaces,but,it's worth it.Use the one piece oil pan gasket.They cost a little more,but well worth it.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #2
spent most of the time on the oil pan, I really didnt get alot done. There wern't any of the good ones in the valley, so I had to do the stupid 4 peice one. It sucks alot more with the engine in the car then it does off.

Right now all I got to do is get the timing chain all the way on and get back to putting everything on. I got the heads torqued and the lower intake on. Fun stuff, but I'm getting kinda burned out on it after two days straight.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #3
Did you ever get it running?
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #4
Yes,update.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

 

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Reply #5
Not as of yet. I was only able to work on it for a couple of hours. I spent nearly 3 on just the stupid oil pan. However, I tourqed down the rocker arms and all I have left are wires and fuel lines and front accesories. Also Kits, your lifters looked like they were in 10 times better shape then the ones I had in the car origonally, and twice as good as the ones I got out of a 65,000 mile cougar.

The e7's are on and I'm thinking about going duels, since I already have an h-pipe (Thanks Vinnie!), and that exhaust is rotted out...

After I get it running, the h.o. upper and throttle body might go in with how many times and how well I've gotten at swapping out the whole thing.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #6
Its no fun working on the oil pan in the car.I think that was one of the top hardest things to do to are cars, in another thread.
I've done it and didn't like it.The motor the parts came out of only had 89,000+ well cared miles on it,which will probably be made into a stroker,later on that.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #7
I agree totally. At least I was in a garage with an awesome jack and jack stands. I really should have pulled the motor mounts, but then I would be tempted to just pull the whole motor out to make ALOT of things easier.

Also, after looking at your lifters compared to mine, I may have to be alot more serious about how often I do my oil changes...
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Here we go again, update nov 5

Reply #8
The car runs I guess. I got it all put together on sunday, dropped the distrubitor in monday, went to crank it, and it was a dead battery...

Anyways, threw it on the charger overnight, and I guess my father in law was able to get it started. I worked all night last night, and had problems sleeping this morning. Otherwise I would have came and woked on it.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Here we go again, update nov 5

Reply #9
I got it started, capped off all my vaccum lines that I didn't have hooked up and decided to go out for a spin. It was back firing really good every time I got on the gas at all. It was fine at idle and only does it under load.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Here we go again, update nov 5

Reply #10
humm,, a little off on the dizzy?
sounds like a classic symptom to me.

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Reply #11
Got it running pretty good. I had it timed to either 20 or 0 before. I miss marked the 10 on the crank... Got it fixed and WOW there's a difference. Got a good squeel out of it at 1/4 throttle. I wasn't trying to get on it or anything, but compared to that little neon I have to squeeze in everyday, this things a monster.

Throttle response is all but instant, but I still got alittle bit of a shudder. I pulled of spark plug wires while it was running, and at least 2 of my plugs are bad or dirtty. I'd like to see what it'll do with all 8 firing correctly.

Got two or three things left that need to be done.

-temp registration
-exhaust
-tires
-tps sensor needs re-adjusted
-Check tranny fluid. Still slips a hair. Might have something to do with the v-6 tranny that sat for 5 years without being moved. I'm not too worried about it. I can swap a tranny in a day in the gravel.


After I see how it does on emmisions and inspection, I will be all good to go.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com