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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #105
Against the advice of some forum members, I've decided to post the last two videos of the car before the accident. The first is of me starting the car while my brother shoots. We had literally finished up the last bits of work just a few minutes prior to the video being shot.


This final video is of me testing out the lights. Shortly after this was filmed, I took the car out for it's last drive, came back, went to sleep...and...the rest is history.


It's very difficult to watch these.
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #106
Quote from: jcassity;175212

OR.... did i miss something and you two are on to something?


Just fishing around for something he did not mention because maybe he didn't think it important. Or maybe something he thought was implied but not actually said in the instructions.

The instructions do say to check the voltage at the battery when you first start it up. The voltage should go to 13.9 to 14.4v if the alternator has output and is regulated.
I wanted to confirm that this was done.
If the regulator is running "wide open" the voltage can go high enough to cause damage.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #107
im calling the ball

THERMAL RUNAWAY!

battery data and size plus electrolyte level has not been confirmed but ill bet this is it.

Senerio

alt charges a little high due to a faulty regulator (which could have been bought new prior to this upgrade)

battery has some age on it and has developed a memory

electrolyte was at or about 80%

cells cooked

car was shut off

batteries tend to recharge themselves after sitting for a while

this one continues to charge

during the drive, its possible the insulation was cooked on the blk/org jumpers from the alt to the solenoid

ground was eventually found but not until it was too late.

after shutdown and during the nap taking place, fire starts and the smell only a battery can produce (hydrogen) was detected and sometimes mistaken as a sulfur like smell.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #108
softtouch
can you tweek that last drawing i posted to illustrate your change for the TC application?  you mentioned that there is an error,, and i cant seem to figure out where it is.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #109
Quote from: jcassity;175241
softtouch
can you tweek that last drawing i posted to illustrate your change for the TC application?  you mentioned that there is an error,, and i cant seem to figure out where it is.


There are too many variations in these cars to come up with one diagram and set of instructions fits all.

For instance your instructions say to take the yellow wire off the starter solenoid.

Compare your 2,3, 3.8 and 5.0 EVTM Charge/Power.
For 3.8 it looks good.
For 5.0 there is no yellow wire on the solenoid
For 2.3 there is a yellow wire but it is not in the charge circuit.

This is just for '87. Throw in 83-88 just too many possible variations.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #110
DMC24guy

Revisit to this thread because.............

Did you repin your exciter plug per the instructions??????????

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #111
I'm sorry, I don't follow you. I just searched the write-up for both "exciter" and "repin" but found nothing. If you could elaborate more, I might be able to answer.
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Reply #112
this is a good sign of getting to the bottom of what happened i hope.

booksix said that he followed the instructions that was linked in your thread.  it included repin of the smaller "d" shaped connector like i have drawn up in his thread.

go look if you dont mind, we might be getting somewhere.  It would e helpful if you look at your alt also.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #113
Somehow I missed all this.

Did anybody ever tell Jeff K or NATO??

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #114
Quote from: DMC24guy;179562
I'm sorry, I don't follow you. I just searched the write-up for both "exciter" and "repin" but found nothing. If you could elaborate more, I might be able to answer.

I'm guessing that what he means is moving the center wire on the stock regulator plug to the "I" position from the "S" position (in the diagram I posted in the other thread it's the light green/red stripe wire).
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #115
In that case, no. I didn't need to do that. All of the wires were already in the correct positions. I double checked that before proceeding with the installation. I verified using a voltmeter. It was as if the previous owner had already rewired everything.
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