who has what type of spring and what has it done to your ride? if this post works out well, everyone can use it when they wanna lower their car. BECAUSE THE SEARCH FUNCTION WORKS :D
Here's my '88 Sport with Suspension Techniques springs. I had Koni Rally Sport springs in before and they only lowered the car a 1/2" from stock MAX. These lowered it about 2". Much happier now. Ride is fine, stiffer than stock but not even close to as bad as lowered mustang 5.0s. Cornering is perfect. I highly recommend Suspension Techniques if you can find them. The suspension consists of: front mustang lower control arms, maximum motorsport caster/camber plates, TC 8.8 rear w/ 3.73 gears, stock thunderbird struts/shocks, Sport/TC swaybars.
-Bryan
Ford Racing springs for the 79-2000 Mustang part #m5300c
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/fastertbird/T-bird%20Pictures/MVC-001L-3.jpg)
Mustang Bullitt Springs
Lowered alittle over an inch.(i don't exactly remember) the rear is slightly lower than the front.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/elosmisho/darkthunder.jpg)
1988 Turbo Coupe springs up front...dropped the car over an inch, probably more. About 1.5 fingers between the top of the tire and the fender lip.
Out back I'm still running my 10-year-old Moog cargo coils. God bless 'em.
Obviously the car has a rake but that's what I wanted.
DECH Motorport "Race Spec" up front (no longer available) and Suspension Techniques in the rear with Koni "Sport" struts and shocks. I used to have ST's springs all around and the car looked great and rode nice as well. I switched because they weren't firm enough for open lapping days at the local road course.
Ford Racing springs from summit. only $140 for all four. they really improved the handling and the ride is pretty good. or maybe im just used to it, i drive 120 miles everyday to college and then deliver pizza on the weekend. anyway to me the ride is fine.
The Suspension Techniques springs look like they give the perfect ride height. I just let an opportunity to buy a set on E-bay slip by. I'm pissed, I knew I should've grabbed em! :yuck: I think they sold for $150 with only one bidder!
I'm using T-Bird Sport fronts with one coil removed and stock Turbocoupe rears. The front sits fine but I wish the rear sat a little lower.
http://www.cardomain.com/id/dogcharmer69
My 84 XR-7 from a few years back.
Front-
Motor sport C-kits
Rear-
Stock XR-7 or 94-98 Mustang Convertible springs with KB TracKit axle brackets.
That's how my 83 Tbird is set-up currently...but that is changing before too long.
Drop, according to my notes (yes, before and after measurements)...drop about 1 1/2".
Ford Racing Springs on 88 Turbo Coupe, same springs as Andrew Beedles. Hope my picture attaches correctly.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/555000-555999/555080_59_full.jpg
88TCRezurect: what tire size are you running?
Ford Motorsport 'C' in the front
H&R Sport springs (for the Mustang) in the rear
It's very low with just over 1 finger clearance on each side between fender and the 17x8 wheels.
Koni Red Shocks in the rear (Mustang) These have very little travel (ie, you jack up the car on one side, the other lifts up with it) :brick:
Soon to be putting in my Koni Red struts in the front.
(http://www.vistangers.ca/images/ryan/tbird1resize.jpg)
Koni coilovers with Hypercoil springs, Series 30 Koni's in the rear, Koni double adjustables in the front. I can set my ride height anywhere I want it. :)
(http:// http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/479000-479999/479951_36_full.jpg)
how many arms+legs did THOSE cost john? :p
:) That picture sure brings back memories of my first aftermarket wheel/tire combo back in the early to mid 90's. 17 x 8.5 ROH's with 275's all around.
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_img_a/209646_217_full.jpg)
you could eat of of that! :wtf:
@john331
it look nice an pro....
You remove the stock shox and spring then replace both by this Coilovers?
Was it kind of tough to install?
Was it Plug&play or Plug and Pray?
How much it cost ya?
Where you bought it? I want one! (i meant 2 front and 2 rear) :dunce: :giggle:
I have a dumb Question.... The triangular mobile part where the stock spring sits is called, a "A-Arm" right? (I know in french its called a "Table")
I also need new bushing for this part but dont know how its called.... :dunno:
Control arm bushings. There are two on each control arm, a front and a rear.
Koni sports. No longer available though. I found mine as NOS.
Man, what py resolution on my pic!!!
i would enjoy making love to your car...
This tubular Front suspension kit look very interesting.... (Not to say Kick @$$) :deal:
Sound like a good deal to me.....
(http://www.uprproducts.com/images/parts/all/k-kit_LRG.gif)
UPR Tubular A-Arm/K-Member Coil Over Suspension Kit (http://www.uprproducts.com/shopping/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=64&cat=K%2DMembers) for 700 bags of sugar...
Wich one is the best fit (?) and what is the Spring Rate? :dunno: :dunce:
Here's the big question i asked myself....
On Coolcats.net on THIS PAGE (http://coolcats.net/tech/advanced/suspension/controlarm.html) Eric said A-Arm for 87-88 Cougar are same as 1994-98 Mustang but UPR sells kit for 1996-2004 or 1979-1995... Now im totally screwed :screwy: :screwy: :wtf:
Which one is for me?
You only have to buy the kit + the Struts? Does it require anything special except the little fitment issue (Spacer... etc) I read about the QA1 in an other thread?
anyone? :dunno:
Mic Test....
one, two.....
Still no one?
Ford Motorsport M-5300-D. :ies:
That is a scary-looking K-member if you ask me....a bit too spindly.
You'd want the one for the 79-95...the later K-member is going to be different to allow for room for the 4.6 and the fact that the steering rack sits 1" lower on the 96+ cars as well... I would imagine they only sell one length of control arm for both kits. If they offer 2..get the longer one.
I wouldn't use that Kmember on any of my cars though....Maximum's piece is nice...and built.
I wouldn't mind getting a tubular k-member, but I would like to get one that still uses the stock type springs. :grinno:
what should i buy to lower my car just about 2 inches, if i go any lower with the GST fx kit i might ahve a bommon out problem, n since i gather i cant lower it 3 inches ill stick with 2. any one have ne recomendations on what to get?
My son always uses Fox Mustang springs, lowers the car good but still rides nice. :grinno:
fox mustang lowering springs, or stock mustang springs? looks nice
Just stock Mustang springs. :grinno:
FRPP M-5300-F springs
(http://fpacarclub.com/IMAG0014.JPG)
Eric,
Do you remember cutting those springs, or did they got in out of the box? I have a set of those going in with my CHE arms if I can ever get the car out of my yard :D
Pictures for reference:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/286291390/292283716jvPKuP
http://community.webshots.com/photo/286291390/286296295LeTDYA
Bob Myers
This is great, I have been looking for suspension mods, but every time I go to buy something I find nothing for a T-bird. Then when you talk to any sales person they won't tell you it will fit. Since you almost always have to buy a Mustang part for your T-bird, can anyone tell me what year fits what?
I am really thinking of going to coil-overs, but I hesitate as I am not sure if they will work. Anyone know if the link below would work and what model of Mustang would be most comparable to my 88 Fox Body T-bird?
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/mmcopkg.asp
Bob, I am really sorry for the delay in response. Those Moog coils are totally as they were out of the box; I have done nothing with them as far as modification. For cars with a heavy subwoofer boxes in the trunk, or in my case a lot of convertible stuff, the cargo coils are a perfect solution.
Thanks Eric, I actually installed them today, and they are a great fit. The car sits level :D
I was worried about them having the 4x4 look
Bob Myers
Thats funny, I have a set of NOS Koni's as well! Mine are still in the box! I may not use them because they are for 83-86 TBirds and I don't know if they will fit in the front control arm pockets. I read somewhere the 87-88 are different control arms than the older ones. Is this true?
James
I want to lower my cougar now.... Hopefully I can get the rust bucket running just before summer :P
So are you guys using standard Mustang Suspension Techniques springs? Cause that sits really nice and they are still available right? Which ones, do they only make one set? Are the for a fox or SN95?
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think anyone here has used Mustang Suspension Techniques lowering springs on their bird/cat. I have a set of T-bird/Cougar specific Suspension Techniques springs that were made years ago and since then have been discontinued. Only places to find them (tbird specific: suspension techinque springs, koni rally sport springs, ford motorsport springs, and maybe eibach springs) are on message boards and ebay.
With that said, many guys, as you can see from this thread, have used other mustang springs on their birds/cougars ranging from fox to sn95, front and rear, stock and after market; with any possible combination of those. Hope this helps a little.
-Bryan
P.S. Anyone know if Suspension Techniques made springs for fox mustangs?
That's what I needed to know, I didn't know they were T-bird specific, bummer as usual.
i have mustang springs in the front i think and air bags in the back i like it. well it doesnt sag like most tbirds
http://tinypic.com/e65efm.jpg
i am running the following
granatelli coil over in the front 79-93 mustang
drag springs w/the coilovers
tokico mustang struts 87-93 5.0
modifyd strut harware for coil overs > factory prc car
in the rear just the stock t/c springs w cheapie rubber "height correctors"
it also has the battery,10 lb n2o bottle in the trunk
i would suggest coilovers to one who is never happy with the height of there car :D
i will be upgrading the rears soon
sweetness. i had never realy considered coil overs even though they are the kats azz. ive seen plenty of people use them sucsessfully but the shock towers (imho) were never realy meant to handle that kind of load. always had a bad feeling about that.
Don't coilovers seriously limit your tire width capabilities? Cause I have a friend that just put 17X9 Cobra Rs on with 255 tires and he's having slight rubbing on the strut WITHOUT coilovers.
You shouldn't. There are hundreds of cars that have have coilovers (with suitable C/C plates) and I've yet to read of any problems not caused by a wreck or something similar.
Here is a very old thread about this topic. (1 (http://"http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670&highlight=strut+tower+force"))
Well, I read through the entire post, and still have a stupid question. I've got an 87 tbird with 5.0 and a few years back heated the springs with a torch (I know, stupid) and am now looking for a quick budget way to replace the springs. I can get all 4 from a 95 mustang GT for a good price. Now any ideas on if these will work?
If they do will it lower it or anything? Let me know, if they will work I'll atleast use them to replace my py ones. Thanks
I have springs off a wrecked Steeda Mustang on my car. Not sure of the spring rates but the are pretty stiff. Lowered the car a bunch. I also have CHE adjustable rear control arms.
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/233000-233999/233524_68_full.jpg)
This pic is before the control arms were put in to take out the horrible SAG! If my memory serves me right now it sets about 1/2'' higher in the back.
Fox or SN-95 Stang? I'm thinking SN-95 but I want to be sure.
I think the car was a '92. I don't know much about Steedas and what the options were on springs. I'm sure some were maybe more aggressive than others.
well, one and a half years later, im finaly adding to my own thread lol...
SUSPENSION TECHNIQUES tbird lowering springs up front, and H&R springs in the back for a fox vert with adjustable lower arms, the hood isnt lined up because my fenders are lifted up about 1/2" with a spacer i made untill i come up with another fix. this along with some serious camber adjustment gives me enough suspension travel to drive the car. now the car has a T-5, long tubes, and all the emmissions, AC, and some other stuff including tarmat have been removed to lighten it up. as it sits now it was dropped about 2" or more but on the pluss side, i cant push my front end down anymore lol, and the back is next to the same.
Was thinking of useing Ford Racing springs and KYB gas strut-2 shocks?
and for rims i want some Snowflakes with cooper Z-rated tires.
Sound good? to anyone
followed sleepers advice and got coil overs only had enough funds to do the front for now. Went with granatelli as well cause I liked how his car sits. Everything else is still what ford put on the car
i tokico lowering springs thet are 1.25.
does any one know if they will fit or did you have any like this on your car before your current springs?
I can't believe no one mentioned the Bullitt Suspension KIt.
Everything should bolt right up, right?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-Bullitt-Tokico-Struts-Shocks-Springs-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33590QQhashZitem8044388022QQihZ019QQitemZ8044388022QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Everything but the front sway bar and the rear shocks will bolt up....
Will it work? Dunno. Perhaps.
Anyway to reattach the missing uploaded pics in this thread?
wait wait wait...
so i can use Bullitt struts on my car when i replace them (very very soon.) Know i can use the springs in front. what about the back and are the rear shocks too short like the fox stangs?
This is more of a "this is what I have done" thread and not an ask and answer thread... I'm am going to start another thread pertaining to the Bullitt Suspension topic.
bduly, Check jcwhitney they still have suspension techniques springs for the t-bird and mustang.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2005865/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2005865/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=suspension+techniques
I sat on a waiting list for JCWhitney over 6 months for those springs and never got them.
Yeah suspension techniques doesn't make those springs anymore.
Here is a pic of my car with H&R Supersport front springs #51651. 1.75" drop on 94-95 Mustang. (BTW, they are up for sale) Front tires are 17x9's with 245/45-17. Hope this helps.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/thundr306/87%20turbo%20coupe/DSC02112-1.jpg
Stock '84 Tbird
'94-95 SN95 spindles/brakes up front
out-of-the-box '99+ Mustang GT convertible springs from Eibach
Sits and fills nice how's it ride,It is pretty ,For a bird.
Wheres the moulding on the right side?
It's all in the dumpster right now. I was checking to see if I could restore the mouldings or if I should just knock all the adhesive off when those pics were taken.
So the adhesive is gone now. I wish someone would repop that . I haven't seen a Fox Bird/Cougar with good mouldings in probably a decade.
lol @ looks good for a Bird. I always thought the Cougars looked funky, with a roofstyle completely out of order with the otherwise swoopy lines of the car, but to each their own. ;)
You mean the chopped window? Where the air keeps the trunk down and the rear?.
thunder306, how much for the h&r springs??
FRPP Tbird/Cougar Springs (No longer made)
Flipinbird, check the for sale forum
http://foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=12580
lol, don't even mention aerodynamics...
Please note that there were no Cougar Pro Stock or NASCARs..
But seriously, everyone has their own preference. Just thought it was funny to see "for a Tbird" in your reply.
It was more of a joke.I have owned 3 birds before my cat.
WHAT springs,Who has the answer?
I'm gunna play on good friday,Maybe I will have some insight.
Well bubbas,My cars home.It's different.I used lowering springs, It raised the front ,Tighter steer tho.I am goin to run it a little to see if it settles.Then get it aligned.Took the shake out of mine.
Not sure what was wrong.But everthing was changed,What a difference with 15-1.And 11" brakes.I tried to take measurements before I ripped it apart and realized it was f'd .
So I eyed it to make it home,I'm close,But not right.
Update you all later.
I have the long gone discontinued Eibach lowering springs that were made for our cars..... I bought the whole set for $50 bucks on ebay from someone who probably didn't know what he had....
They dropped my car around 1" in the front and 1 1/2" in the rear........
Just out of curiosity.... what is it about the bullit front swaybar that it wouldn't work? Is it because of different bends for the mod motors?
After you lower the front,do you need a new front end alignment?Lowering is one thing on these cars I've never attempted.
Probably,I doubt you could put the strut back exactly where it belongs.
Yep, the bends are different.
I dont like to complain about things but.
:ttiwwp:
Is there any way to get the pics fixed. It kind of defeats the purpose of the thread when there are no pics to use as a reference when choosing springs.
Im done whining now.:flame:
Your are correct.I have before I will put after later.
once I figure why mine raised.
It could be because the old springs had sagged and it will settle lower than it is now after some time.
If it did sag I hate to see how high it was new.It had to be out of perportion.Just like my motor I do everything at once.I don't get to see the little things as you go along.It dropped a little since I did it,no matter it goes sat. to get alighned.I just want to run it before the next project.
Thanks for the info Ether! Um...... anyone need a Bullit front swaybar?:hick: LOL!