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Title: Mass Air conversion
Post by: cougar Crazy 5.0 on November 26, 2004, 01:39:48 PM
Since I can't install my under drive pulley, I started looking at the mass air conversion info.  I have all the parts and pieces but what pin do you use for the fuel pump relay powerand how is the best way to run the wire.  Thanks
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: zpyro on November 26, 2004, 05:31:43 PM
hm, on the coolcats page it only says
"You will also need to run a new wire to the fuel pump relay. In the Mustang, the fuel pump power wire gets its power from a different computer pin than our cars, so like it or not, you gotta do it. Of course, safety is the #1 priority here, so please be careful. Check the chart below for a reference."
but says nothing about on what pin to do it...
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: rob302 on November 26, 2004, 09:41:22 PM
well i know when i did my maf coversion the kit from ford racing for the mustang, i did not change any wire just added the wiring for the maf, not sure why my runs but maybe u should try it before running the wire lol just to see if it works

Robert
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: rob302 on November 26, 2004, 09:50:00 PM
ok someone chime in and tell me wy my car runs its been this way for awhile like 3 years now prolly cause when i ordered this the ford racing they mentioned the thermactor wiring but they said everything else was a dicect swap so i dunno i wanna her emore details on this thanks
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: cougar Crazy 5.0 on November 27, 2004, 06:56:14 AM
The harness and the connectors for the MAF sensor and computer are from Ford Motor sport Performance Equipment.  I am assuming, I just run the wire through the firewall plug it into the computer change theThermactor wires and I should be good to go
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: rob302 on November 27, 2004, 11:13:06 AM
well yea but i did not even change the thermactor wiring cause thats not hooked up on mine
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 27, 2004, 06:53:45 PM
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You will also need to run a new wire to the fuel pump relay. In the Mustang, the fuel pump power wire gets its power from a different computer pin than our cars, so like it or not, you gotta do it.

Not so, every EEC-IV wheather MAF or SD uses pin 22 to trigger the fuel pump relay. The MAF EECs do use a feed back circuit(pin 19) to tell the EEC that the F/P is receiving voltage. What happens if you don't connect it??? NUTHIN', the EEC sets code 89 in memory, and life goes on(in other words it will run just fine).
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ok someone chime in and tell me wy my car runs its been this way for awhile like 3 years now prolly cause when i ordered this the ford racing they mentioned the thermactor wiring but they said everything else was a dicect swap so i dunno i wanna her emore details on this thanks

With the thermactor solinoids you should switch a couple of wires(EEC pins 11 & 51 with 32 & 38) so they will operate. If you arn't using solnoids then it doesn't make any difference.
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: rob302 on November 27, 2004, 11:04:36 PM
think u Turbocoupe50 that clears up alot cause mine has that code in it but i never thought any thing of, u are the man

Robert
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: cougar Crazy 5.0 on November 29, 2004, 06:44:51 AM
Thanks for the info TurboCoupe50.  I moved the Thermactor pins and it works great.
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: jaybo on December 06, 2004, 11:25:20 PM
Thank you TC five oh.  I didnt do anything but I learned something today so it was not a wasted day!!!
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: ablinkpunk on December 11, 2004, 02:22:41 PM
Once I finish off my HO conversion, should i swap over to MAS Air???
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: cougarman on December 11, 2004, 02:30:52 PM
IST makes a real good MAF conversion.
mass air kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7914956939&category=33553&sspagename=WD1V)
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: ablinkpunk on December 11, 2004, 02:43:19 PM
this kit would be all i need?? what about the Mas Air Sensor? would i have to get that from a junkyard or something?
Title: Re: Mass Air conversion
Post by: cougarman on December 11, 2004, 02:47:21 PM
Yes you would need a maf meter and a maf computer, could be sourced from a Mustang. Junkyard or ebay would probably be cheaper. :grinno: But this kit is all the wires you would need to convert your harness to mass air.