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Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 02, 2017, 11:46:55 PM
I just got this 83 turbo coupe last week going to do something with it I haven't figured out where I'm headed yet though.

It's got an 87 gt 5.0, 87 turbo coupe rear end 3.55 With discs.  88 GT front brakes. T5 tranny.  Car needs some body work the interior is rough the front end sags pretty good.  I am going to put 5.0 springs out front and maybe sn95 struts?

Will post a picture when I get home.
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 03, 2017, 06:40:15 AM
Here is a picture I managed to get up to photobucket is there any better picture sharing sites all these ads I don't think used to be there.

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk127/zrmotoracer/20170724_162356_zpstbccxwzd.jpg) (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/zrmotoracer/media/20170724_162356_zpstbccxwzd.jpg.html)
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: rotorr22 on August 03, 2017, 12:38:33 PM
You got a great start since several mods have already been done. I like the color. All of my cars, save one, are blue.
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Post by: deathbypsi on August 03, 2017, 02:25:00 PM
Nice!  I had to go outside and check to see if my car was still after reading your first post! Sounded like you bought my car! lol
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 03, 2017, 11:00:56 PM
I learned a lot by searching the posts here and seeing everyone's builds.  I am curious if any of you have recommendations on wheels?  I like the minilite/panasport look and hoping to find some for this car.  The tires on it now are too tall and I'm not a fan of these wheels.

This weekend I hope to install my KYB rear shocks and put new brake pads on.  I'm hesitant on what rear springs I should run or stick with stock.  Also I found kyb adjustable struts for the 87-93 mustang that I'm tempted to purchase.
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: kylesburrell on August 04, 2017, 01:31:24 AM
I've got a set of wheels and tires for sale that I'm trying to get rid of. I can send pics if interested
-Kyle
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: Haystack on August 04, 2017, 03:29:02 AM
Try a set of sn-95 springs for the rear.

The front struts for a stang are an inch or two shorter, just a fyi.

The rears can use mustang shocks if you flip the rear shock bracket. You will need to drill a hole though for the tab.

Btw, any 87-93 mustang rim should fit and be the same offset.
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 04, 2017, 09:11:21 AM
Quote from: kylesburrell;462051
I've got a set of wheels and tires for sale that I'm trying to get rid of. I can send pics if interested
-Kyle

What style wheels do you have?  I am interested in something different than whats on the car. 

Haystack with the struts being shorter will they not bolt up?  I read a long post that I believe Darren(?) posted that had a really detailed layout of running stock springs from moog all around, KYB thunderbird rear shocks and some struts for a 87-93 mustang if you have the 11" brakes?
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: Haystack on August 04, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
They will bolt up, but you will lose a bit if travel. The front looks like it may be lowered a bit, but that might just be the size of the front tires.
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 04, 2017, 05:26:14 PM
The front is all kinds of messed up right now.  I just put in the KYB shocks as the Monroe's out back were wooped.  I am going for about an inch lower than stock but at the moment the front seems collapsed and no travel.  I do need to get these giant tires off there too lol.  They're 225/60r16 all around.  I was lost when it came to the suspension until I searched this site you guys have lots of incredible information and actual first hand experience of what works and what doesn't.
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Post by: Haystack on August 05, 2017, 01:49:48 AM
A 225/60r16 is only 26.5" tall vs a stock sized tire right around 26". My guess is a really high spring rate front spring, maybe even a lowering spring for a fox stang. Fox springs drop the car about an inch, then if it was a 1-2" drop spring for a mustang, you might be sitting on the bump stops.

Id try sn-95 springs all around and see where it sits. A few people here run them and really like the slight drop compared to our stock springs.
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 05, 2017, 05:46:33 AM
Thanks Haystack!  I think that might be the route I go.  Also anyone have experience with KYB AGX struts?

The KYB 734014 (for sn95 mustang) is 20.83 and compressed is 14.57 compressed. 
The KYB 235002 (83 Tbird Excel-G) is 19.45 extended and 14.17 compressed.  (for comparison sake)
The KYB 734013 (for Fox mustang) is 19.25 extended and 13.15 compressed.

I'm not sure which one to go with out of the AGX series, it seems the extended length is closer with the Fox but I would have slightly extra travel for the compressed so this should work better if I lower the car slightly with the SN95 springs?  The more I read about it the more conflicting views I see.  Aerocoupe posted to run Fox struts and Coolcats says DO NOT use fox struts.
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Post by: Moonmount on August 05, 2017, 08:12:35 AM
Quote from: ZachReynolds;462064
Thanks Haystack!  I think that might be the route I go.  Also anyone have experience with KYB AGX struts?

The KYB 734014 (for sn95 mustang) is 20.83 and compressed is 14.57 compressed. 
The KYB 235002 (83 Tbird Excel-G) is 19.45 extended and 14.17 compressed.  (for comparison sake)
The KYB 734013 (for Fox mustang) is 19.25 extended and 13.15 compressed.

I'm not sure which one to go with out of the AGX series, it seems the extended length is closer with the Fox but I would have slightly extra travel for the compressed so this should work better if I lower the car slightly with the SN95 springs?  The more I read about it the more conflicting views I see.  Aerocoupe posted to run Fox struts and Coolcats says DO NOT use fox struts.

I would just run tbird/cougar struts and shocks if your keeping stock brakes. If you do end up lowering it some sn95 shocks would be nice.
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 05, 2017, 09:25:16 AM
Quote from: Moonmount;462065
I would just run tbird/cougar struts and shocks if your keeping stock brakes. If you do end up lowering it some sn95 shocks would be nice.

I have 88 Mustang GT brakes and spindles up front.  I just put Tbird shocks on the rear.
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: kylesburrell on August 05, 2017, 09:52:22 AM
Quote from: ZachReynolds;462056
What style wheels do you have?  I am interested in something different than whats on the car. QUOTE]

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/wto/d/full-set-4/6185791628.html
^^^ link to the set of wheels and tires im selling.
-Kyle
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 05, 2017, 05:35:50 PM
I like those wheels do you know the offset?
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Post by: kylesburrell on August 05, 2017, 09:37:28 PM
Well it's a 15x7 wheel with about 4.5in backspace. So offset would be +1in, I think I math-ed that right. I had them mounted on my 86tbird. No issues with rubbing. And my car is lowered too. The tires are 4 yrs old
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Post by: Haystack on August 06, 2017, 01:33:37 AM
I had wheels just like that in a 14" rim on my first cougar.
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Post by: Aerocoupe on August 10, 2017, 12:25:58 PM
Just a quick note, the SN95 front struts should not be used on a lowered Fox car.  They have internal bump stops and will not compress as far as a Fox strut hence why the SN95 guys use the Fox struts when they lower their cars.
Title: Got me an 83
Post by: ZachReynolds on August 21, 2017, 04:39:05 AM
Quote from: Aerocoupe;462103
Just a quick note, the SN95 front struts should not be used on a lowered Fox car.  They have internal bump stops and will not compress as far as a Fox strut hence why the SN95 guys use the Fox struts when they lower their cars.

Any negative side effects if I just use an 87-88 turbo coupe struts?  I believe they had the wider spindles so I wouldn't need to use shims not that the shims are bad.
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Post by: Aerocoupe on August 21, 2017, 07:39:25 AM
The SN95 struts do not require the shims nor do the V8 Fox Mustang struts. Within the Fox family of Cougars, Mustangs, and Thunderbirds if the car has 11" brakes then the spindles are the same and the struts will interchange without shims. If the car has the smaller 10" brakes then it will have the struts that will require shims when swapping to the 11" brakes or SN95 brakes.

Nothing wrong with running the TC struts except they are tuned for the 4 cylinder suspension.