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Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: 1987tbird5.0 on June 30, 2014, 09:53:07 PM
I have an '87 Thunderbird with a 5.0, AOD, and 7.5 rear end.  I had 3.73 rear gear installed, but not sure how to get the right speedometer gear to make the speedometer accurate again. I guess Ford never put this gear ratio in this car.  Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: thunderjet302 on June 30, 2014, 10:30:11 PM
I run this one: http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/LRS-17271J-K/83-95-Mustang-23-Tooth-Speedo-Gear-Kit-Auto

Should make the speedometer accurate within 1-2mph.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: 1987tbird5.0 on July 01, 2014, 01:22:11 AM
Thank you
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: TOM Renzo on July 02, 2014, 10:44:32 PM
23 teeth is where you want to be. Or 1 tooth for every 5 MPH depending on the gear count of your original gear. have a great evening guys.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 03, 2014, 01:12:23 PM
23 is the one.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: Haystack on July 03, 2014, 05:40:57 PM
I've heard the 23 tooth gear doesn't mesh well and gets eaten up every little bit.

i plan on swapping a 6 tooth driven gear into my t-5 when i can get around to swapping the tailshaft.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 03, 2014, 11:54:11 PM
Quote from: Haystack;435435
I've heard the 23 tooth gear doesn't mesh well and gets eaten up every little bit.

i plan on swapping a 6 tooth driven gear into my t-5 when i can get around to swapping the tailshaft.

The gear I posted is for auto transmissions. The T5 gear gets eaten by the auto trans.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: custompunk on July 04, 2014, 02:27:05 AM
I just changed the rear gears and my speedo is 10mph off down low and more so at 70mph.  I used this link http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/products/Mustang-Transmission-Speed-Correction (http://"http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/products/Mustang-Transmission-Speed-Correction") to choose a 17 tooth manual trans white gear and clip. 

Hopefully I'll be spot on with it.  I still need to update my sig for the rear end change.  Just changed over the whole rear end to a 7.5 trac loc with slapper bars.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: Haystack on July 04, 2014, 02:45:09 AM
Sweet, didn't know they had a kit with clips and a driven gear. maybe i can finally get my speedo to read less then 85mph in first gear. it is kinda fun watching the odometer though.i'll bet the car thinks its way over 400k miles by now.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: V8Demon on July 04, 2014, 06:09:30 AM
Some later/rebuilt AOD's may have an 8 tooth drive gear as opposed to the 7 tooth that these cars came with.  Just something to look out for.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: Aerocoupe on July 04, 2014, 04:17:35 PM
The T-5's drive gear for the speedo can be changed but I believe the ones on the AOD's are machined into the output shaft so if you have an 8 tooth on your AOD and it is machined you will have to find a 7 tooth output shaft and swap them.  I run the black 6 tooth drive gear in the T-5 in my Coupe so that I could run a lower numerical driven gear for the 3.73's.

This is an excellent site to calculate the correct driven gear for almost any application:

http://www.sccoa.com/faq/speedgr.html

Darren
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 04, 2014, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;435469
Some later/rebuilt AOD's may have an 8 tooth drive gear as opposed to the 7 tooth that these cars came with.  Just something to look out for.

Actually 86-88 Thunderbirds/Cougars with the AOD had an 8 tooth drive gear. The 86-89 Mustang AOD had a 7 tooth drive gear and the 90-93 cars had a 8 tooth drive gear. Confused yet?

The AOD in my Thundebird has an 8 tooth drive gear. It's the factory trans that has been rebuilt.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: jcassity on July 05, 2014, 07:41:14 AM
yeah, that rattled my brain.
gotta deal with this on my bronco,, speedo needle just bounces but only does so once in a while.  the time it does not it lays at zero.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: V8Demon on July 05, 2014, 09:19:28 AM
Quote from: thunderjet302;435489
Actually 86-88 Thunderbirds/Cougars with the AOD had an 8 tooth drive gear. The 86-89 Mustang AOD had a 7 tooth drive gear and the 90-93 cars had a 8 tooth drive gear. Confused yet?

The AOD in my Thundebird has an 8 tooth drive gear. It's the factory trans that has been rebuilt.

The case on my transmission has an '89 part #.  Came out of a Super Coupe.  The 8 tooth drive gear/tailshaft in mine has the revised holes for better fluid dispersal/lubrication.  It's staying....
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 05, 2014, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: V8Demon;435515
The case on my transmission has an '89 part #.  Came out of a Super Coupe.  The 8 tooth drive gear/tailshaft in mine has the revised holes for better fluid dispersal/lubrication.  It's staying....


The SC got the 8 tooth drive gear in 89. Mustangs got it in 90. I have no idea why it took a year longer.
Title: Speedo gear for AOD after changing to 3.73:1 rear gear
Post by: V8Demon on July 05, 2014, 11:49:40 AM
Simple.  Assembly line continuity.  90 Mustangs got quite a few changes compared to the 89..... Do them all at once.  Less down time.  More cost effectiveness.