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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: jcassity on November 04, 2004, 06:28:22 PM

Title: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: jcassity on November 04, 2004, 06:28:22 PM
Ok
while waiting for a light to turn green my car suddenly lurches forward as though i pressed the gas but i did not.

this really has me bothered and makes me wonder how related it is to the bucking in right / left turns.

could a power booster cause this since my foot was on the brake?

scared the  outa me cause i was luckly 10 or so feet behind the other car.  Quickly i threw it into N and when it was time i dropped it back to drive.  Never happened again this afternoon but this morning when it did, i almost wanted to park it for safety reasons.  If something happens like this even once,,it worth parking in my book till the problem is found.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: mjbtbrd on November 04, 2004, 11:03:47 PM
I remember my old 84 did something like that.  It would idle at 2000 and kick down but next time  you accelerated it stayed  at 2000 and coated at 40+ mph, now this was all over a period of one saturday night.  By the end of the night I would stop at a light and it was idling like a mofookie  wouldn't kick down anymore. I  got alot of stares.  never used neutal just held the brake.  Drove it into dealer Monday AM, as it was 1984 and the car was under guarantee  lot of people looked as it revved like crazy while I just held the brake and drove the sucker into the dealer garage.  I think they were scared  wimps. I think it was an IAC thing but it was 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: bq93 on November 05, 2004, 10:23:13 AM
What is IAC?

Can a bad Map sensor cause high idle like that?
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: Ifixyawata on November 05, 2004, 10:30:16 AM
Idle Air Control.  Bumps up the idle on cold start, with A/C on, etc.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: EricCoolCats on November 05, 2004, 11:08:41 AM
IAC or TPS...those are usually the culprits for surging like that. You can usually clean out the IAC. Have you run any EEC codes on the car? If one of those are bad they'll throw a code.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: jcassity on November 05, 2004, 11:23:53 AM
Ill check the swing of the tps ohms for smoothness.
i have a idle control motor assy (CFI)
My car will not give up codes at all.  Never has since i became a member of this board and was showed how to pull them.  A shop tech was only able to pull code 11 but then his tester could not communicate with the eec.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: andymerc88 on November 05, 2004, 06:15:20 PM
Is a new IAC just as expensive as a new TPS, and will a cleaning be sufficient to stop a problem like that?
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: jimfulco on November 06, 2004, 12:11:45 AM
Mine ('88 5.0) suddenly decided go 45mph with my foot off the gas & at the same time to have no power to the brakes.  Turns out the cheap plastic vacuum manifold on the driver's side firewall had broken at the big nipple on the side, creating a 3/8" vacuum leak.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: PAULD on December 03, 2004, 10:34:20 AM
Check For Vaccumn Leaks.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: cougarman on December 03, 2004, 10:41:42 AM
Had a similar problem a long time ago. For some reason the cruise control was revving the car up when I would stop, even though I wasn't using it. PITA, not to mention dangerous. :ies:
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: zpyro on December 03, 2004, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: andymerc88
Is a new IAC just as expensive as a new TPS, and will a cleaning be sufficient to stop a problem like that?


I think one of those would fit in a pocket in some big pants when you go to the yard.


um...i mean...don't steal!  :wtf:
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: MasterBlaster on December 04, 2004, 07:46:40 AM
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I think one of those would fit in a pocket
Wouldn't some nice knee-high stretchy sport socks be better?
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um...i mean...don't steal!
Yeah, that's what I meant too.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: jcassity on December 04, 2004, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: zpyro
I think one of those would fit in a pocket in some big pants when you go to the yard.


um...i mean...don't steal!  :wtf:



sumthin tells me id better keep my eye on you around my shop :flip:


this problem has not happened again so it may have been just a fluke.  Im still chasing the bucking in a curve.  Im down to inspecting the steering column for a rubbing wire harness.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: Tbird232ci on December 04, 2004, 12:51:22 PM
try just letting the car run while in park or nuetral, and if it starts the bucking and whatnot, firmly tap the IAC with a hammer, sometimes itl help clear up the issue...sometimes
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: jcassity on December 04, 2004, 11:27:07 PM
mines an 87 shawn.,, going out for an eve ride now to get some smokes before they close.  i think im on to something from what i did today while troubleshooting.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: ablinkpunk on December 09, 2004, 06:18:24 PM
i had a similair issue...it was a small vacuum leak. Check all the vaccum hoses. I plugged off the hose that was leaking on mine and never had the problem again.
Title: Re: Serious safety problem with my coug
Post by: baja216 on December 17, 2004, 07:49:31 PM
I'm going to have to check mine for leaks.  I just had a new IAC installed and it's still idling a bit high at times.