General => Lounge => Topic started by: TOM Renzo on May 31, 2013, 06:40:02 AM
Title: Which way do they GO ???
Post by: TOM Renzo on May 31, 2013, 06:40:02 AM
Ok as some of you know i am doing a C4-C5 conversion on an early Vette. So i installed the drivers side and completed the fronts. BUT JR lashed in to me as getting old and loosing it. He slammed me for installing the rotors on the wrong sides of the car????? So just for kicks are they installed wrong or right . This is just for laughs and an information post. So here is the driver side and please chime in as to the direction this rotor should be facing. Thanks. I think some will be interested in the OUTCOME!!!
DRIVERS SIDE ROTOR AND THEY ARE DIRECTIONAL !!! The pencil marks are clearly on the top of the rotor and the scoops face forward as shown ?????????? ARE THEY INSTALLED CORRECTLY ???
Title: Which way do they GO ???
Post by: 1BadBird on May 31, 2013, 09:18:35 AM
I'd say they were correct based on the direction of the cooling vanes inside the rotor itself.
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Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on May 31, 2013, 10:22:35 AM
The original Motorcraft rotors for old Aerostar vans were directional like this, and they taught us in school that directional rotors breathe from the outside meaning that the vanes on directional rotors should always point forward at the top of the wheel or there is no pumping action in the vents. These are force cooled rotors and they'll only really work well one way. You'll know if they're on wrong because you'll get brake fade sooner when you're beating on them. I'd say you've got this one at least on correctly.
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Post by: BCA on May 31, 2013, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: TOM Renzo;416305
DRIVERS SIDE ROTOR AND THEY ARE DIRECTIONAL !!! The pencil marks are clearly on the top of the rotor and the scoops face forward as shown ?????????? ARE THEY INSTALLED CORRECTLY ???
Tom,
The vanes should be angles toward the rear, not the front as the rotors are designed to "pull" air in from the center and expell it out the edge.
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Post by: Chuck W on May 31, 2013, 12:10:08 PM
Backwards.
They vent from the center outward.
When brake cooling ducts are installed on race cars, the fresh air is directed at the hub, not the outer edge of the rotor.
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Post by: TOM Renzo on May 31, 2013, 01:21:31 PM
Good answers i will wait to post the correct way these rotors go on. I know the PORSCHE rotors point to the rear and pull from the center in and out to the top. Chuck is correct on his post but i will wait till some others post. HINT!!!!! LOOK AT THE PENCIL LINES CAREFULLY!!!!!
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Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on May 31, 2013, 01:39:18 PM
I guess school WAS 15 years ago...
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Post by: TOM Renzo on May 31, 2013, 01:56:31 PM
But once again are these rotors on incorrectly FOE. Think again!!!! You were closer the first time you posted. Once again look at the pencil marks closely!!!
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Post by: TOM Renzo on May 31, 2013, 09:53:33 PM
Here we GO!!!!! Fins are going in the correct direction. Reason being it has a combination of long and short scoops as pointed out by the pencil marks. Thanks!!!
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Post by: Chuck W on June 01, 2013, 12:01:35 AM
*Normally*, curved-vane rotors install backwards from what is shown in this particular install.
Seeing as this is also not TBird/Cougar tech, I'm moving it to the Lounge.
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 04, 2013, 09:39:09 PM
Moving on on my Brake conversion i needed a master cylinder with a bore diameter of 1" So the WS6 was my choice. But the mounting was a little to small. The old cylinder has a center to center distance of 3 1/2 inches and the WS6 was only 3 3/8 so i had to do some filing with a rat tail. No sweat a few strokes and it fit great. Only issue the push rod was to long for the WS6 master. So i had to drill it deeper by 1/4" Here is how it is dun.
There it is a modified cylinder that fits like a glove. I will tear it down and clean it up in the ULTRA SOUND and rebuild it to factory specks. Just wanted to post a mod on what can be dun to make things work. This happens to be a VETTE but i am going to install VETTE brakes on a mustang Stay tuned .
NOTE this car is a TEXAS car that i work on in the summer. The owner is a golf PRO and spends winters in TEXAS and summers up north. Can you imagine if he needed brake work down in Texas or in some other shop. Parts would be non existent as i modified all the components. I have to include a build sheet to the owner if he ever needed repairs other than from ME.
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Post by: jcassity on June 05, 2013, 01:50:48 AM
not sure why this brake tech needs moved to the lounge, its tech stuff on brakes and we all have them,, matter of fact we all at some point have had dealings with custom rotors ect on our fox's.
if that rotor is the drivers side and the caliper is on the rear, and since directional rotors pull aie from the center, i would say your rotor is backwards.
what fluid are you using in your ultra sound cleaner? when i was in the navy we had 5gal cans of freon we poured in to clean with. the stuff worked great
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 05, 2013, 05:06:12 AM
Beats me Chuck W moved it and i thought is was strange myself. Basically i posted it as a how to brake mod. Brakes are brakes but i guess it was not FORD related. Sometimes i think i am wasting my time posting things as engines are engines brakes are brakes and like you point out JAY why in the LOUNGE. Well not my call. So do you like what i did so far. let me know. By the way if someone UP DATED a brake system on a FORD with WELLWOOD brakes would that be in the lounge or in TECH???
Basically i think it is a water soap solution. In the ultra sound. Beats me i just buy the STUFF????? Not a clue of what it is???
Jay the rotors are correct. They are of a different design. Long short system of vanes. A lot of cars do it this way. But i do agree most go the other way. Why chevy and other cars do it the other way is still puzzling to me. But according to CHEVY those rotors are on correctly. And marked as such!!
Stand by i am going to install c5 brakes on a ford shortly. Doing this VETTE made me think i can use the old C4 front brakes on the rear of Mustangs And cougars as well as T Birds. They are floating units and are much bigger than some factory ford units. Only issue is no provision for an E BRAKE. But i have that covered with a hydraulic locking unit.
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Post by: Beau on June 05, 2013, 10:52:31 AM
Seems like I recall a 4 eye Bird with some 'vette brake parts on it. ;)
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Post by: Chuck W on June 05, 2013, 12:38:28 PM
The original post had nothing to do with install on a TBird or Cougar. It was you talking about a brake swap on a Corvette, and adding a little quiz to go along with it. Not much applicable tech there.
Now, if you want to talk about your LS M/C install into a Fox, then OK, that's applicable and you should've started another thread in the brake section. Same as if/when you consider a GM brake swap on a Fox.
Yes, I installed the 12" C4 Vette stuff on the front of my '80 XR-7, and detailed it in my build thread.
Tom, the C4 Vette stuff (12") I installed on my Merkur Scorpio has provisions on the rear calipers for a cable-actuated e-brake, (As seen below) but I imagine the C5 stuff is a bit different. (http://www.turbochuck.com/webimages/projects/Scorpio/vetterrinside_s.jpg)
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Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on June 05, 2013, 12:45:44 PM
I agree. It's a decent thread, with good info on brake theory, but Chuck was right to move it. I don't think moving the thread hurts anything or makes it harder to find.
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Post by: Chuck W on June 05, 2013, 01:27:19 PM
If you want, I can cull out the MC stuff and put it in a new thread in the proper tech forum. It'll have to be later on tonight, though.
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Post by: BCA on June 05, 2013, 03:45:29 PM
Tom,
I'm curious as to who makes those brake rotors.
Not trying to say that what you stated is wrong for your application, but I know of at least one other company (Stop Tech) that offers rotors with the same (or very similar) vane pattern and they recommend mounting them in the traditional manner of having the top of the vane facing toward the rear.
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 05, 2013, 07:55:09 PM
No need Chuck it does not matter
You are correct some Vetts have a separate set of E Brake shoes and some do not. Personally i am dun with conventional cable E BRAKES. I hate them. Other than if you have state inspection i trash all that BS cable and pedal . The calipers you posted have the actuators. Those are very good also if you want to keep the E BRAKE Thanks!!
The rotors are made by Wagner. Or should i say they have a WAGNER PART #
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 05, 2013, 08:09:28 PM
calling WAGNER in the AM.
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 05, 2013, 08:15:19 PM
Dam i did it again .SORRY
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Post by: Chuck W on June 05, 2013, 09:01:45 PM
Again...this is NOT Fox-specific tech, just general stuff. If you want to go through the details of a Vette brake swap on a Fox car, then fine. Showing a couple mods to mount a TA master cylinder to a Vette is neat and all, but it doesn't help the guy looking under the hood of his '86 Thunderbird.
As far as the rotor direction goes, default *should* be with the curved vanes angled towards the rear, UNLESS the rotors are stamped for a certain side of the car, or for whatever reason the manufacturer sees fit to spec. Yes, there are a few instances, OEM and aftermarket, that the rotors are installed "backwards" from convention. *shrug* If you're curious, ask them why. Otherwise just follow the directions.
As a side note, Vette Z06's came from the factory for a time with all LH rotors on them, so the vanes on one side of the car were wrong from the factory. Why? Probably because they didn't think it mattered enough for a street car. Who knows.
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 06, 2013, 05:25:25 AM
These are on the MIDNIGHTER. So i am posting this in the lounge. Sorry Chuck saying a modified system is FORD IN TO FORD in my view is narrow minded in my opinion. Choosing a brake system or modifying any system for that matter to fix an issue is not CAR LINE SPECIFIC. Why then do i see so many HEI distributors in ford engines?? Simple because the GM HEI is the best. Also why do so many Stand alone systems use GM sensors and coils. Simple they are better. Finding a Master for example is not car line specific. I posted a VETTE MOD to show how things can be dun. The same can apply to a ford dodge ETC. Showing ideas is what this is all about. It is not all about a single carline. Now i know this is a FORD SITE. But showing ideas is always helpful as it makes people think about things on a different level. Like the first guy that machined a GM HEI to fit a ford engine. With masters it is not about the car. It is about how to pick a cylinder. What is needed is a mounting procedure a stroke length fittings that are compatible and bore size. I know you know this. Well once again for some reason i am not getting the real message you are posting about. I now have it crystal clear in my mind where you are coming from. Thanks
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Post by: Chuck W on June 06, 2013, 07:06:41 AM
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I now have it crystal clear in my mind where you are coming from.
No, you obviously don't, and calling me narrow-minded is laughable at best.
Tom, stop and read what I've written now, at least twice. I SAID, if you're talking about a conversion on a Fox with some of this stuff, then post it in tech. Seeing as this WHOLE thread had nothing to do with a Fox car, other than your mentioning of your PLANS to do a brake conversion of some sort on a Mustang with some Vette parts, I put it in the Lounge.
The average person cruising through this site is not going to see your post on the MC swap, or the rotor directions and not put 2 and 2 together and try and correlate that to their project. "I picked up a WS6 MC and I can't get it to work in my TBird like you showed it fitting." Like you, they won't actually READ what is posted.
So, you have Porsche brake calipers on your TBird. Cool. How about posting an actual tread in brake tech about what you did to install them on the car, instead of a pair of calipers sitting on a bench? THAT would be useful.
Posting to show "what can be done" is fine, but keep the posts in the tech section related to the what this site is about. Things posted that aren't applicable to the cars of this site, like putting Lambo brakes on a Pacer, while cool, do not belong in the tech section here. Installing Lambo brakes on a TBird, then yeah, that's applicable tech.
You understand yet?
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Post by: Beau on June 06, 2013, 11:37:35 AM
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Why then do i see so many HEI distributors in ford engines?? Simple because the GM HEI is the best.
And 97% of the folks who slap an HEI style dist., or even an MSD box have basically stock engines. What's the effin' point?
Too bad they don't (and probably won't ever) know that a stock Ford ignition will capably support well over 350 spower. I'm talking about the older 5.0 stuff, not brand new, today's cars. You can have your HEI stuff. It's a hot spark, but in a stock engine, it's about the same as putting brand new socks on, then sitting around the house all without wearing shoes. Show me a dyno sheet where a 5.0 picked up 25 or 30 ponies and some good amount of torque from nothing BUT an HEI dist. swap, and I'll jump on that bandwagon. Same with an MSD setup.
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Post by: 86cougar on June 06, 2013, 06:27:18 PM
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No, you obviously don't, and calling me narrow-minded is laughable at best.
Tom, stop and read what I've written now, at least twice. I SAID, if you're talking about a conversion on a Fox with some of this stuff, then post it in tech. Seeing as this WHOLE thread had nothing to do with a Fox car, other than your mentioning of your PLANS to do a brake conversion of some sort on a Mustang with some Vette parts, I put it in the Lounge.
The average person cruising through this site is not going to see your post on the MC swap, or the rotor directions and not put 2 and 2 together and try and correlate that to their project. "I picked up a WS6 MC and I can't get it to work in my TBird like you showed it fitting." Like you, they won't actually READ what is posted.
So, you have Porsche brake calipers on your TBird. Cool. How about posting an actual tread in brake tech about what you did to install them on the car, instead of a pair of calipers sitting on a bench? THAT would be useful.
Posting to show "what can be done" is fine, but keep the posts in the tech section related to the what this site is about. Things posted that aren't applicable to the cars of this site, like putting Lambo brakes on a Pacer, while cool, do not belong in the tech section here. Installing Lambo brakes on a TBird, then yeah, that's applicable tech.
You understand yet?
No, he doesn't and NEVER will. He's proved this time and time again. Half this forum is now about chevy's and it's as though all he wants to do is convince every one that he is the ultimate and last word on any subject to arise. Why is it that those of you who has taken the time to create and administer to this forum would let some one else take it away from you and use it for his own, is beyond me. Let him take the time and effort to build his own forum then he can try to "DICTATE" it any way he pleases. Any one who disagrees with him he can call "stupid or dumb" or belittle THEM all he wants as long as they are willing to allow it. The only reason I am not willing to lay down and let him step all over this forum is because there are too many good, meaningful, and very knowledgeable guys here who get pushed aside only because of one person's ego and they are the one's who reached out to me to help. I have pretty much build my car from the ground up with the help of a lot of different guys here some being from the administration here, and I did it IN SPITE of the agitation and harassment of the one who is on about every thread on this forum trying to prove his superiority.
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Post by: 86cougar on June 06, 2013, 06:32:07 PM
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No, you obviously don't, and calling me narrow-minded is laughable at best.
Tom, stop and read what I've written now, at least twice. I SAID, if you're talking about a conversion on a Fox with some of this stuff, then post it in tech. Seeing as this WHOLE thread had nothing to do with a Fox car, other than your mentioning of your PLANS to do a brake conversion of some sort on a Mustang with some Vette parts, I put it in the Lounge.
The average person cruising through this site is not going to see your post on the MC swap, or the rotor directions and not put 2 and 2 together and try and correlate that to their project. "I picked up a WS6 MC and I can't get it to work in my TBird like you showed it fitting." Like you, they won't actually READ what is posted.
So, you have Porsche brake calipers on your TBird. Cool. How about posting an actual tread in brake tech about what you did to install them on the car, instead of a pair of calipers sitting on a bench? THAT would be useful.
Posting to show "what can be done" is fine, but keep the posts in the tech section related to the what this site is about. Things posted that aren't applicable to the cars of this site, like putting Lambo brakes on a Pacer, while cool, do not belong in the tech section here. Installing Lambo brakes on a TBird, then yeah, that's applicable tech.
You understand yet?
No, he doesn't and NEVER will. He's proved this time and time again. Half this forum is now about chevy's and it's as though all he wants to do is convince every one that he is the ultimate and last word on any subject to arise. Why is it that those of you who has taken the time to create and administer to this forum would let some one else take it away from you and use it for his own, is beyond me. Let him take the time and effort to build his own forum then he can try to "DICTATE" it any way he pleases. Any one who disagrees with him he can call "stupid or dumb" or belittle THEM all he wants as long as they are willing to allow it. The only reason I am not willing to lay down and let him step all over this forum is because there are too many good, meaningful, and very knowledgeable guys here who get pushed aside only because of one person's ego and they are the one's who reached out to me to help. I have pretty much build my car from the ground up with the help of a lot of different guys here some being from the administration here, and I did it IN SPITE of the agitation and harassment of the one who is on about every thread on this forum trying to prove his superiority. DUN!!!
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 06, 2013, 10:02:11 PM
Ok FORDS. G][/URL]
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Post by: gumby on June 06, 2013, 10:12:13 PM
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Here is a car that is the most famous T Bird on the planet. One of the most sough after cars in existence . Care to tell me who owned it 86. ... What do you contribute to the TECH PAGES. NOTHING So tell me who this car belonged to.
Who shagin cares? Do these pop quizzes really entertain you?
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 06, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
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Post by: 86cougar on June 07, 2013, 12:05:58 AM
Quote Originally Posted by TOM Renzo View Post Here is a car that is the most famous T Bird on the planet. One of the most sough after cars in existence . Care to tell me who owned it 86. ... What do you contribute to the TECH PAGES. NOTHING So tell me who this car belonged to.
I'm the guy that this forum was meant to assist, but I guess you wouldn't get that either. I'm the new guy who needed to ASK questions about my FORD. I noticed you took you little post off the forum before I could see it (you seem to do that a lot, why is that?)
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Post by: Beau on June 07, 2013, 01:36:32 AM
I don't have a problem with people more knowledgeable than myself. I don't have a problem with people who have more money, tools, cars, experience, a bigger dick, whatever...
I DO have a problem with someone who acts like a pompous shaging ass hole because they are pen 15y, or have "done it all"....big whoop.
I've got friends that own Porsches and Vettes, and yes, even a Ferrari. They're all pretty humble folks, and something else, they can change their own oil, and don't feel the need to make a post on some other manufacturer's forum and post this or that about which way there ed brake rotors go.
Also, the subject in question deletes his own posts after getting called out (like a whiny little ass) and threatens to leave occasionally. Need someone to help you hold the door?
It might even be said that you are quick to "brag" about doing this or that (in regards to a Fox Tbird, for example) but when someone asked you a simple question on fabbing some parts (in this case, a bracket to mount a rear disc brake caliper) you ignored that question, and continued post-whoring and shoving chevrolet shiznit down our throats that I said forget it, and I did. I now have a setup that's reliable, works, and I did it myself, with a little help from Clayton and the folks who compiled the rear end chart and put that info up without expecting everyone else to roll right over and kiss their ass...unlike you.
I don't give a if I'm out of line or not, but I think I'm not the only one who feels this way. This place was better off when we didn't have someone posting about LS this...LS that...and causing a f*ckin' argument everytime he posted.
See ya. Maybe.
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Post by: jcassity on June 07, 2013, 08:47:16 AM
This whole rotor thing has been a good lesson, it actually plays into heat gains in areas that break down braking parts. I know that my rotors i buy today will eventually warp and give me that shaky feeling up in the steering. when that happens i will verify the warp with a magnetic dial indicator and then replace the caliper hoses (got a log story about how they break down inside along the rubber to metal crimp) and replace the rotors & bearings but also inspect the spindal. i have only successfully worn out one spindal in my cougar career. I suspect its due to my neglet for improper final tightening... a lot of people dont know on our cars you have to come back and fine tune after you run down the road a couple miles to take up any slack.
Chuck is keeping forum and car related which i cant argue with having thought about it. We do have a site about specific cars and keeping that heritage isolated and clearly identified, a line has to be drawn somewhere. another catagory like "other car stuff" in the tech section might one day be an option.. but this istn cars.com.
here is whats gonna happen Tom and you wont be able to stop it, you just simply are not capable of preventing it. Your gonna wake up one day and all the superficial garbage is going to disappear. your not going to exhaust yourself with posting things that deviate from your topic regardless of previous posts, your gonna stay on point and let the thread stay on target for the sake of the threads content and your seriousness for wanting to make that the end objective resulting in 100% efficiency. i use to be you,, that part you dont have time to confirm but i do regret a lot of myconduct in the past on this forum. That being said, i have never demanded anyone treat me with respect for the sake of sensitivity. Some people have asked you not to bite at them while taking the time to do the opposite. See we are not all perfect but in the shop person to person ill bet we all would get along just like brothers. I wouldnt mind wrenching with anyone here and my shop would be thier shop if the opportuinty came about. so , let the clock roll and we await that magic moment when the garbage is taken out.
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Post by: Chuck W on June 07, 2013, 08:52:01 AM
I honestly don't care if he (or anyone else) posts other tech, or other projects. What I do care about is getting for moving it to an appropriate location on the forum.
I never said it doesn't have value. I said it doesn't belong in it's original post location.
Let's stop with the drama. It's like a bunch of teenage girls in here sometimes.
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Post by: MY83T on June 07, 2013, 10:30:09 AM
Quote from: Chuck W;416713
I honestly don't care if he (or anyone else) posts other tech, or other projects. What I do care about is getting for moving it to an appropriate location on the forum.
I never said it doesn't have value. I said it doesn't belong in it's original post location.
Let's stop with the drama. It's like a bunch of teenage girls in here sometimes.
+1
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Post by: 86cougar on June 07, 2013, 11:41:44 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;416709
I don't have a problem with people more knowledgeable than myself. I don't have a problem with people who have more money, tools, cars, experience, a bigger dick, whatever...
I DO have a problem with someone who acts like a pompous shaging ass hole because they are pen 15y, or have "done it all"....big whoop.
I've got friends that own Porsches and Vettes, and yes, even a Ferrari. They're all pretty humble folks, and something else, they can change their own oil, and don't feel the need to make a post on some other manufacturer's forum and post this or that about which way there ed brake rotors go.
Also, the subject in question deletes his own posts after getting called out (like a whiny little ass) and threatens to leave occasionally. Need someone to help you hold the door?
It might even be said that you are quick to "brag" about doing this or that (in regards to a Fox Tbird, for example) but when someone asked you a simple question on fabbing some parts (in this case, a bracket to mount a rear disc brake caliper) you ignored that question, and continued post-whoring and shoving chevrolet shiznit down our throats that I said forget it, and I did. I now have a setup that's reliable, works, and I did it myself, with a little help from Clayton and the folks who compiled the rear end chart and put that info up without expecting everyone else to roll right over and kiss their ass...unlike you.
I don't give a if I'm out of line or not, but I think I'm not the only one who feels this way. This place was better off when we didn't have someone posting about LS this...LS that...and causing a f*ckin' argument everytime he posted.
See ya. Maybe.
Well said! I do think it's a shame that this issue is always ignored to the point that someone has to get so upset that they take the initiative. Then someone has to always drop in and make excuses for him. Like I said, he's running this forum and doesn't seem to give a what anyone thinks. There is a reason he has been evicted from other forums. Chuck W. I usually get the most upset when you are arguing with him. You always have a good point, but he ignores you as well.
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Post by: jcassity on June 08, 2013, 09:11:09 PM
can we do brakes on this??????? what a ride
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Post by: Haystack on June 09, 2013, 11:44:27 PM
not fox related :p
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Post by: Chuck W on June 09, 2013, 11:46:58 PM
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not fox related :p
Well, it *IS* in the Lounge. ;)
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 10, 2013, 05:59:32 AM
Thank You Chuck i appreciate that. Honestly. And i do understand what you meant.
Just for the record stacks it is FOX related. Marilyn Monroe was a FOX. This car was MARILYN MONROE'S CAR. One of the most most sought after T Birds on the planet. And 86 i do not think the owner made any excuses for me when the final results of this project. Thought you guys would like to share a piece of history with this particular FORD !!! We have been involved in other famous cars as well but they are not FORD platforms so i wont post those. I was not going to post on this but i wanted to clear up the fact that i know the difference between FOXES!!! Thank You
Now for the sharp eyed the car is 94% original that is the best we could do!!
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Post by: Beau on June 10, 2013, 11:39:04 AM
That's a slick 'ole Thunderbird.
Hey Tom...Marilyn Monroe spent part of life as a kid in the little ole town that I live just north of. Her grandfather lived here, way way back when. Of course the house is long gone, but I can show you exactly where it was. My grandmother told me a lot of history about the people that once lived here. Of course, a pretty well known WW1 general spent his youth here too. You may have heard of John Pershing. AKA Blackjack.
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Post by: TOM Renzo on June 10, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
When this car came in i had actually thought JR was messing with me. But we had the ORIGINAL TITLE. Naturally the new owner has it now. A lot of history in this car. I personally do not know where she lived. I was to young. And back then i did not care. But that is cool that she lived close to you. Rumor has it that she was very down to earth. JOE DEMAGIO. was one of her husbands and from what my dad told me he used to put flowers on her grave every day. Weather this is true i really do not know. Well i posted it so you guys could see it. It drives perfectly. It now has a 312 the original 292 was beefed up to a 312. I figured what the HECK!!! Thanks Tom
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Post by: Beau on June 10, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
Pretty neat car, the history it has is equally amazing.