Title: Antique plates
Post by: Weasle on November 26, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
Post by: Weasle on November 26, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
Any one else excited about being able to put antique plates on their cars? Here in Virginia we have to wait for 25 years before we can get them. 2012 marks the year i can get the black and white tags for my car. I plan to be at DMV on the Jan 2nd to pick mine up. How does eveyone feel about our cars reaching these milestones?
For me i think its great when people ask me what my car is and are amazed at how old it is. The design and style of these cars has really held up over the years. Most people i run into think my car isnt half as old as it truely is.
For me i think its great when people ask me what my car is and are amazed at how old it is. The design and style of these cars has really held up over the years. Most people i run into think my car isnt half as old as it truely is.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on November 27, 2011, 12:02:40 AM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on November 27, 2011, 12:02:40 AM
I was excited when I was able to get classic plates for my T-Bird. It only had to be 15 years old to get them. And like you, as soon as I could get them I did. The ins. is cheaper and I was able to set the value on my car. I'd like to up the value on it but I'd have to get it appraised and I just haven't gotten around to it.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 12:09:02 AM
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 12:09:02 AM
in jersey, they're called QQ tags because the first 2 letters are QQ.. i don't know about VA, but in jersey, they limit your yearly mileage, you're only allowed to drive at a certain time or for certain occasions(as per some insurance companies) and it really sucks.. i'd rather pay for full coverage with a regular insurance company and drive whenever i like and however many miles i feel like driving..
as for the milestone, i love it.. my TC's are all 1 year younger than me, so it makes me feel old all at the same time.. lol
as for the milestone, i love it.. my TC's are all 1 year younger than me, so it makes me feel old all at the same time.. lol
Title: Antique plates
Post by: beast50 on November 27, 2011, 03:06:21 AM
Post by: beast50 on November 27, 2011, 03:06:21 AM
Yes! I have to wait till 2013, but I can't wait.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: vinnietbird on November 27, 2011, 06:53:45 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on November 27, 2011, 06:53:45 AM
Technically, the Sport turns 25 in July. I have to check and see what Oklahoma has as far as those plates go.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: flylear45 on November 27, 2011, 07:26:02 AM
Post by: flylear45 on November 27, 2011, 07:26:02 AM
Ohio is much like New Jersey. If I get the antique plates I can't drive the car to work. I am E-check exempt next year, though!
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 07:57:51 AM
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 07:57:51 AM
no one is emissions exempt in jersey, except legitimate antiques.. i'm hoping DE is different
Title: Antique plates
Post by: T-BirdX3 on November 27, 2011, 09:09:34 AM
Post by: T-BirdX3 on November 27, 2011, 09:09:34 AM
Quote from: Shadow;373927
.. i don't know about VA, but in jersey, they limit your yearly mileage, you're only allowed to drive at a certain time or for certain occasions(as per some insurance companies) and it really sucks.. i'd rather pay for full coverage with a regular insurance company and drive whenever i like and however many miles i feel like driving..
as for the milestone, i love it.. my TC's are all 1 year younger than me, so it makes me feel old all at the same time.. lol
Va also has slot of restrictions on antique tags. So I'm not at all interested in antique tags, I don't want the state telling me when I can drive my car or how many miles I can put on it.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: EricCoolCats on November 27, 2011, 09:14:21 AM
Post by: EricCoolCats on November 27, 2011, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: flylear45;373940
Ohio is much like New Jersey. If I get the antique plates I can't drive the car to work. I am E-check exempt next year, though!
Ah, E-Check...(un)lucky you. We don't have that in my county but I still had to adhere to parts of its regulations, in that a Collector's plate became much more difficult to obtain.
I got my classic plates for the convertible in the spring of '11. It does restrict for shows only, for the most part, but that's all I ever do with the car anyway, so no big deal for me.
Now the '84, OTOH, remains regular-plated in case I ever need to drive it at any time.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
Quote from: EricCoolCats;373945
Now the '84, OTOH, remains regular-plated in case I ever need to drive it at any time.
that's why i don't register anything with QQ tags.. i like the option to drive whatever, whenever.. the restrictions just aren't worth the reduced cost of insurance to me
Title: Antique plates
Post by: TOM Renzo on November 27, 2011, 09:40:52 AM
Post by: TOM Renzo on November 27, 2011, 09:40:52 AM
Good
Title: Antique plates
Post by: cougrrr302 on November 27, 2011, 10:38:30 AM
Post by: cougrrr302 on November 27, 2011, 10:38:30 AM
I have to wait for the 30 year mark, which is beyond rediculous. Kansas is lame in that respect, but we don't have emissions laws thankfully. I have 2 years to go from this coming January. They used to let people order customized Antique plates, when they stopped doing that, my Dad said the hell with it, and ordered a personalized normal plate for his Chevelle. We have no driving restrictions with them, only limited use insurance can restrict that.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 10:42:17 AM
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 10:42:17 AM
wow.. what the hell? they tax you for the vehicles you have registered that are 20+ years old? CT is more money hungry than NJ.. all we have to pay is annual registration fees and insurance payments.. some people have to pay for inspection, if they go to a privately owned shop that does inspections (like me, it's the ONLY way it can 'pass').. most people just go to the state-owned inspection stations, which is free
Title: Antique plates
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 27, 2011, 11:05:32 AM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 27, 2011, 11:05:32 AM
Quote from: Weasle;373924
Any one else excited about being able to put antique plates on their cars? Here in Virginia we have to wait for 25 years before we can get them. 2012 marks the year i can get the black and white tags for my car. I plan to be at DMV on the Jan 2nd to pick mine up. How does eveyone feel about our cars reaching these milestones?
For me i think its great when people ask me what my car is and are amazed at how old it is. The design and style of these cars has really held up over the years. Most people i run into think my car isnt half as old as it truely is.
VA's B&W tag sucks, designed to look as if it belongs on a model T... The other choice, a God-Awful yellow with blue numbers plate is just as bad... I'd be happy with the Y&B style plate if it were B&W...
I'd thought I may get a set of B&W 1968 plates and alter the 6 into a 8(would be easy), but VA won't register year of manufacture plates for newer than 1972 vehicles... I know a few people have painted the Y&B plates B&W and not had a issue, anyway I have a year yet to think about it...
Title: Antique plates
Post by: softtouch on November 27, 2011, 12:48:20 PM
Post by: softtouch on November 27, 2011, 12:48:20 PM
Speaking of antique tags, here is one I got from my brother-in-law's Dad's garage.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: hypostang on November 27, 2011, 01:43:55 PM
Post by: hypostang on November 27, 2011, 01:43:55 PM
Here in Tennessee we renew our tags every year , but the antique last forever , You can also use "year of manufacture" plates displayed on the car and keep the state issued antique plates in the trunk or under your seat . However they limit when you can drive the car ... weekends or car shows only .. I didnt bother with them on My 67 stang because I wanted to be able to drive the car whenever I wanted .
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 27, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 27, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
Here a car has to be 30 years old to be plated as an antique. It's supposed to be mostly stock - the regs say that the vehicle can't be "significantly modified" but does not define this, so you see some pretty wild cars with antique plates. You're also restricted to how much you can drive, but again this is not defined. One thing that is defined: you must have at least one vehicle with regular plates to use as a daily driver. Advantages to these plates are cheap registration (something like $25/yr compared to $180/every two years, and you don't need to have the car safety inspected every two years like you do a regular car. Really not much in the way of advantages here.
Doesn't matter much, though, because there's a local insurance company that offers "silver wheels" insurance for customs/classics/collector cars for dirt cheap. They only require that you have a "normal" daily driver (doesn't even have to be insured through them) and that you have your car professionally appraised.
Doesn't matter much, though, because there's a local insurance company that offers "silver wheels" insurance for customs/classics/collector cars for dirt cheap. They only require that you have a "normal" daily driver (doesn't even have to be insured through them) and that you have your car professionally appraised.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: hwy73 on November 27, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
Post by: hwy73 on November 27, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
Quote from: Shadow;373951
wow.. what the hell? they tax you for the vehicles you have registered that are 20+ years old? CT is more money hungry than NJ.. all we have to pay is annual registration fees and insurance payments.. some people have to pay for inspection, if they go to a privately owned shop that does inspections (like me, it's the ONLY way it can 'pass').. most people just go to the state-owned inspection stations, which is free
Not free, just "no additional charge". Part of the annual registration fee covers the bi-annual emission-only inspection at the state -contracted stations.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 10:03:32 PM
Post by: Shadow on November 27, 2011, 10:03:32 PM
Quote from: hwy73;373978
Not free, just "no additional charge". Part of the annual registration fee covers the bi-annual emission-only inspection at the state -contracted stations.
well it's technically free.. they're not making you empty your wallet when you get inspected lol
Title: Antique plates
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 27, 2011, 11:31:07 PM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 27, 2011, 11:31:07 PM
VA's antique registration is $50 for a permanent registration, no renewal required... Back in '05 I registered a set of original plates to my '69 Fairlane, was $6 back then and permanent...
VA also requires you have a regularly licensed vehicle and limits you to driving more than 250mi from home... Also states no driving to work, but can be driven for maintenance purposes, club meets, car shows, etc... Vehicle is exempt from State and emission inspections(emission inspections are in northern VA only, none here on the coast)
VA also requires you have a regularly licensed vehicle and limits you to driving more than 250mi from home... Also states no driving to work, but can be driven for maintenance purposes, club meets, car shows, etc... Vehicle is exempt from State and emission inspections(emission inspections are in northern VA only, none here on the coast)
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Dansbirds on November 28, 2011, 11:11:06 AM
Post by: Dansbirds on November 28, 2011, 11:11:06 AM
I have antique plates on my 65 here in NY. I have to renew it everyear and it runs about 25 bucks. I hate having 2 plates on a car so I went and bought a 1964 NYS plate(NY had 2 year issue plates then) with the 65 registration sticker and now only have the one on the car. In florida I had antique plates to start which were just blue but then I found a guy who had unissued plates from 1965 and after sending it to the state DMV to research that it wasnt on a car they let me put them on my cars. I had 2 65 Birds then and was able to get consecutive # plates which was pretty cool. I was at my ins co the other day looking for what my options for my 80 and 83 are although by the 80's NY plates were pretty ugly. 
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 28, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Post by: Shadow on November 28, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
jersey would suspend your registration privileges for not turning your old plates in :p
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Dansbirds on November 28, 2011, 12:13:42 PM
Post by: Dansbirds on November 28, 2011, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: Shadow;374013
jersey would suspend your registration privileges for not turning your old plates in :p
Thats one of a thousand reasons I wouldnt live in NJ
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 28, 2011, 01:00:36 PM
Post by: Shadow on November 28, 2011, 01:00:36 PM
and it's 1 of the million reasons i'm leaving jersey lol
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Quietleaf on November 28, 2011, 11:19:03 PM
Post by: Quietleaf on November 28, 2011, 11:19:03 PM
Quote from: Shadow;374019
and it's 1 of the million reasons i'm leaving jersey lol
We'll distract the guards while you swim for it :giggle:
Title: Antique plates
Post by: sarjxxx on November 29, 2011, 12:14:06 AM
Post by: sarjxxx on November 29, 2011, 12:14:06 AM
you gotta be 30+ here in FL to get Antique tags. They don't really limit you much with them. I once met a guy who had an old 70's dodge with an antique plate on it, this dude drove it as his work truck. He delivered pizzas in it. the only real advantage to getting one here is that its waaaaaaayyyyyy cheaper to register and renew, and plus you get the satisfaction of everyone behind you knowing you've got the ability to keep a 30 year old car on the road.
It used to be 20+ years here but I guess the fact that 20 years now doesn't mean as much as 20 years did 20 years ago. 20 years now is something from the 90's at this point. 20 years ago, back in oh, 91, something 20 years old would have been from 71. that's not the kind of car that usually lasts 20 years. But if you could put a plate on every taurus honda and toyota on the road thats between teh age of 1991 and 1981 right now, they would make absolutely no revenue at that rate. So they had to bump it up to 30 years so they could still make revenue on the regular $300 registrations and $60 annual renewals.
This means I've got a good 7 years yet before I can run them on mine. Oh well no matter to me. In FL we have a custom state plate, with the Florida Panther on it, proceeds go to helping keep them from going extinct or something like that. I figure what better plate to put on my Cougar, than one with a freakin Cougar on it. Only problem is, with the custom plate, with custom letters, on top of the very literal $300 registration fee, I'm looking at close to $400 to get my car legal. That was a real number given to me by three different DMV workers. This is the reason why I own a 3000 pound lawn ornament.
It used to be 20+ years here but I guess the fact that 20 years now doesn't mean as much as 20 years did 20 years ago. 20 years now is something from the 90's at this point. 20 years ago, back in oh, 91, something 20 years old would have been from 71. that's not the kind of car that usually lasts 20 years. But if you could put a plate on every taurus honda and toyota on the road thats between teh age of 1991 and 1981 right now, they would make absolutely no revenue at that rate. So they had to bump it up to 30 years so they could still make revenue on the regular $300 registrations and $60 annual renewals.
This means I've got a good 7 years yet before I can run them on mine. Oh well no matter to me. In FL we have a custom state plate, with the Florida Panther on it, proceeds go to helping keep them from going extinct or something like that. I figure what better plate to put on my Cougar, than one with a freakin Cougar on it. Only problem is, with the custom plate, with custom letters, on top of the very literal $300 registration fee, I'm looking at close to $400 to get my car legal. That was a real number given to me by three different DMV workers. This is the reason why I own a 3000 pound lawn ornament.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 29, 2011, 12:23:27 AM
Post by: Shadow on November 29, 2011, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: Quietleaf;374069
We'll distract the guards while you swim for it :giggle:
they can't contain me! lol delaware seems to be fighting to keep me out though hahah
Quote from: sarjxxx;374073
you gotta be 30+ here in FL to get Antique tags.
only 25+ here in jersey.. same in delaware, but i don't know all of their limitations yet..
and i forgot to mention, in jersey, your vehicle has to have a value of at least $3k
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Weasle on November 30, 2011, 03:43:38 PM
Post by: Weasle on November 30, 2011, 03:43:38 PM
Im not worried about being limited on driving with the antique plates. I think the black and white virginia plates will look good on my black car. Ive been waiting to get these for years now!
Title: Antique plates
Post by: TOM Renzo on November 30, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
Post by: TOM Renzo on November 30, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
Shadow d
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 30, 2011, 05:46:26 PM
Post by: Shadow on November 30, 2011, 05:46:26 PM
tom, i hate to rub it in, but.. delaware has next to no taxes and zero sales tax lol even property taxes are dirt cheap.. the house we were looking at was only $580 yearly property tax for 1.3 acres
Title: Antique plates
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 30, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 30, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
But gas is high in DE, at least compared to MD & VA... Not necessarily bad as the other savings no doubt off set the cost...
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Haystack on November 30, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Post by: Haystack on November 30, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
here in utah, 30 years for a continued production model or manufacturer, and 25 if the manufacterer is gone. Basically, thunderbird at 30 years, cougar at 25. It does not do anything though. You still have to pass saftey and emissions in a 67 and newer every year and all emissions equipment has to be fuctioning. The fee is only slightly less, and you can only drive 250 miles a year.
I don't understand why anyone here would put model t plates on their car.
I don't understand why anyone here would put model t plates on their car.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on November 30, 2011, 11:35:21 PM
Post by: Shadow on November 30, 2011, 11:35:21 PM
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;374291
But gas is high in DE, at least compared to MD & VA... Not necessarily bad as the other savings no doubt off set the cost...
it's only about 15 cents higher than it is here in jersey, but everything else being cheaper really makes it a LOT cheaper to live in DE
Title: Antique plates
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 01, 2011, 12:15:47 AM
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 01, 2011, 12:15:47 AM
Quote from: Weasle;374268
Im not worried about being limited on driving with the antique plates. I think the black and white virginia plates will look good on my black car. Ive been waiting to get these for years now!
+1
My T-bird isn't a daily driver and only comes out on nice sunny days in the summer. Who cares if I can't drive it every day. I don't. That's why I have a daily driver.
You may be able to get your antique plates now. It's usually 25 model years old. Since the 2012 model year has started your car is technically 25 years old :).
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on December 01, 2011, 12:38:18 AM
Post by: Shadow on December 01, 2011, 12:38:18 AM
Quote from: thunderjet302;374298
You may be able to get your antique plates now. It's usually 25 model years old. Since the 2012 model year has started your car is technically 25 years old :).
correct, but it may not be the same in every state.. i believe, in jersey, you're elidgable when your car is 25 years old, compared to the current model year cars on the lot
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Weasle on December 01, 2011, 02:12:55 AM
Post by: Weasle on December 01, 2011, 02:12:55 AM
Im going to check today since my old plates expired today. I would hate to have to renew my plates for just a month before buying the antique plates lol.
Title: Antique plates
Post by: TOM Renzo on December 01, 2011, 06:00:13 AM
Post by: TOM Renzo on December 01, 2011, 06:00:13 AM
Shadow
Title: Antique plates
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on December 01, 2011, 09:29:16 AM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on December 01, 2011, 09:29:16 AM
Quote from: Weasle;374308
Im going to check today since my old plates expired today. I would hate to have to renew my plates for just a month before buying the antique plates lol.
I'm fairly sure the requirement is calendar year, not model year...
VA will graciously refund half of your tag fee, providing there is still six months or more left on a current registration...
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on December 01, 2011, 12:21:58 PM
Post by: Shadow on December 01, 2011, 12:21:58 PM
Quote from: TOM Renzo;374312
Shadow the taxes on the shop are 22K a year. Thank god my grand father bought the building in early 1900. If not between a mortgage and taxes i could note make it. Especially on the body shop. The insurance companies are paying JACK. We are lucky we just have taxes and utilities. But some of the other shops ar paying 10K a month for rent!!!! Basically i want to move but i dont want to leave the kids. My girls all live here and my wife wont move. I looked at some property in NH. But it is to cold for an old dude like me. So i will look south and see what gives. But like i said my wife is being difficult with a move. You know friends stores the kids ETC.
good god.. 22k? i would have only made 4k this year after paying taxes, since i had to temporarily close up shop in june when i broke my femur.. that's just insane, i only pay about 7k in taxes and insurance a year
Title: Antique plates
Post by: '85T-BirdTurboCoupe on December 05, 2011, 07:48:47 PM
Post by: '85T-BirdTurboCoupe on December 05, 2011, 07:48:47 PM
I just got the Historical tags for my '85 TurboCoupe.
Here in Ohio it's 25 years old.
They cost $27.35 and expire in 2050!!, and no annual registration fee.
Driving is restricted to traveling to car shows or club functions, parades,
or maintenance related. No mileage restrictions.
Insurance through Grundy collector car is $160 annually with $500K
liability & $10,000 agreed upon value, no appraisal necessary! Just had
to send them a few pictures! Also no mileage restrictions!
Here in Ohio it's 25 years old.
They cost $27.35 and expire in 2050!!, and no annual registration fee.
Driving is restricted to traveling to car shows or club functions, parades,
or maintenance related. No mileage restrictions.
Insurance through Grundy collector car is $160 annually with $500K
liability & $10,000 agreed upon value, no appraisal necessary! Just had
to send them a few pictures! Also no mileage restrictions!
Title: Antique plates
Post by: flylear45 on December 06, 2011, 06:11:47 PM
Post by: flylear45 on December 06, 2011, 06:11:47 PM
Quote from: sarjxxx;374073
you gotta be 30+ here in FL to get Antique tags. They don't really limit you much with them. I once met a guy who had an old 70's dodge with an antique plate on it, this dude drove it as his work truck. He delivered pizzas in it. the only real advantage to getting one here is that its waaaaaaayyyyyy cheaper to register and renew, and plus you get the satisfaction of everyone behind you knowing you've got the ability to keep a 30 year old car on the road.
It used to be 20+ years here but I guess the fact that 20 years now doesn't mean as much as 20 years did 20 years ago. 20 years now is something from the 90's at this point. 20 years ago, back in oh, 91, something 20 years old would have been from 71. that's not the kind of car that usually lasts 20 years. But if you could put a plate on every taurus honda and toyota on the road thats between teh age of 1991 and 1981 right now, they would make absolutely no revenue at that rate. So they had to bump it up to 30 years so they could still make revenue on the regular $300 registrations and $60 annual renewals.
This means I've got a good 7 years yet before I can run them on mine. Oh well no matter to me. In FL we have a custom state plate, with the Florida Panther on it, proceeds go to helping keep them from going extinct or something like that. I figure what better plate to put on my Cougar, than one with a freakin Cougar on it. Only problem is, with the custom plate, with custom letters, on top of the very literal $300 registration fee, I'm looking at close to $400 to get my car legal. That was a real number given to me by three different DMV workers. This is the reason why I own a 3000 pound lawn ornament.
Some real gems here. Truly, the cookie cutter cars seem to last forever. 300,000 on a Honda is no shock to anyone.
I would love to go for the antique Ohio plates, but believe me if I had an accident and couldn't PROVE that I was going to get the tires balanced I would be denied the insurance claim.
It's cheaper for me in the long run to just pay and be done with it.
BTW, Steve, I'm really sorry it is so expensive for plates down there. Especially if it is keeping your Cougar off the road. At least your car isn't being destroyed daily by the horrible roads we have here. It may be a decent trade-off in the end!
Title: Antique plates
Post by: Shadow on December 06, 2011, 06:38:44 PM
Post by: Shadow on December 06, 2011, 06:38:44 PM
400 is outrageous.. i could tag 3 cars for that price with money left over