Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: 88 Blackbird 5.0 on November 12, 2011, 01:38:53 PM
Post by: 88 Blackbird 5.0 on November 12, 2011, 01:38:53 PM
I was looking for pics of how to trim down a dual Ramcharger fan to fit our radiators when I came across this thread. http://superchargerhelp.com/showthread.php?t=3084
In that thread (post #6) someone who has a built T-Bird makes the comment that our cars have shorter engine bays (length-wise) than Mustangs. Is that true, or bunk? Obviously, you can't trust everything you read in forums.
In that thread (post #6) someone who has a built T-Bird makes the comment that our cars have shorter engine bays (length-wise) than Mustangs. Is that true, or bunk? Obviously, you can't trust everything you read in forums.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: Shadow on November 12, 2011, 01:57:24 PM
Post by: Shadow on November 12, 2011, 01:57:24 PM
i don't think it's true, unless it's by a small amount.. i usually go and start my blue TC and capri every saturday.. not sure if i'm going to make it today since i got a call at 5am that 1 of my best friends died sometime yesterday.. but i will measure front to back (fire wall to rad support) and RF corner to LR corner (and vice versa) and compare the numbers..
i have the same k-member in both cars with the same motor, same radiator and same motor mounts and i have about an 1-1/2" between my rad fan and balancer pulley on both cars
i have the same k-member in both cars with the same motor, same radiator and same motor mounts and i have about an 1-1/2" between my rad fan and balancer pulley on both cars
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: 88 Blackbird 5.0 on November 12, 2011, 02:01:25 PM
Post by: 88 Blackbird 5.0 on November 12, 2011, 02:01:25 PM
I read later in the thread where he claimed Mustang engine bays were 1" longer. Go figure. It will be interesting to see what your measurements turn up.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: T-BirdX3 on November 12, 2011, 04:02:10 PM
Post by: T-BirdX3 on November 12, 2011, 04:02:10 PM
Just looking at the two cars makes this hard to believe, not that that means anything! lol
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: Chuck W on November 13, 2011, 09:49:17 AM
Post by: Chuck W on November 13, 2011, 09:49:17 AM
Well, that is a new one on me, but the guy making the claim knows his stuff.
I guess if someone has both chassis in front of them to measure, we'll know for certain.
I guess if someone has both chassis in front of them to measure, we'll know for certain.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on November 13, 2011, 11:08:22 AM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on November 13, 2011, 11:08:22 AM
It is kinda hard to believe. Myself and I'm sure a few others on here have Mustang strut tower braces on thier Birds.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: Chuck W on November 13, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
Post by: Chuck W on November 13, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: 1Bad88tbird;372815
It is kinda hard to believe. Myself and I'm sure a few others on here have Mustang strut tower braces on thier Birds.
I think the difference is claimed to be between the strut towers and the core support, not the strut towers and the firewall. That distance (strut to f/w) is the same.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: kendoo130 on November 13, 2011, 11:12:00 AM
Post by: kendoo130 on November 13, 2011, 11:12:00 AM
Where is he measuring from? Firewall to rad support-strut tower to firewall? What does he mean?
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: 5.0 tbird on November 17, 2011, 07:50:12 PM
Post by: 5.0 tbird on November 17, 2011, 07:50:12 PM
It's from the shock tower to the radiator support. I was told the same thing about my Mark VII a few years ago.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: Stealth on November 20, 2011, 10:22:51 AM
Post by: Stealth on November 20, 2011, 10:22:51 AM
Will a Mustang strut tower support fit under a T-Bird hood? I know that the "onion-head" upper strut bearings are too tall.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on November 20, 2011, 11:02:02 AM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on November 20, 2011, 11:02:02 AM
Yes they fit. I have one on my car.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: Haystack on November 21, 2011, 12:13:43 AM
Post by: Haystack on November 21, 2011, 12:13:43 AM
I doubt that there is much of a differance. I have worked quite a bit on both cars, and even if it is only an inch, who cares? Got about a foot more room to change out headlight bulbs. I physically couldn't even get my hands in there to swap the bulbs on a mustang.
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: DougyFresh on November 23, 2011, 09:47:43 AM
Post by: DougyFresh on November 23, 2011, 09:47:43 AM
pretty sure they are the same. i have owned and measured both
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on November 24, 2011, 05:15:02 AM
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on November 24, 2011, 05:15:02 AM
i have owned and measured both cars for a chassis project i plan to do in the future, they are the same given manufacturing tolerances...
they use the same core support and same inner fender apr0ns i KNOW and they both go back to the strut tower so i do not see how there could be a real difference in that area
they use the same core support and same inner fender apr0ns i KNOW and they both go back to the strut tower so i do not see how there could be a real difference in that area
Title: This is a new one on me
Post by: tirefryr on November 27, 2011, 01:21:47 AM
Post by: tirefryr on November 27, 2011, 01:21:47 AM
I had a wrecked 88 bird that needed a PS front apr0n. I had multiple Mustangs at the time and pulled the apr0n front off of one and when I went to install the fender on the bird, it would not line up. Ordered the T-bird specific apr0n front and it was indeed a bit longer. I don't know about the earlier birds, but the 87-88 did have extra space in front of the strut towers.