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Technical => Audio & Other Aftermarket Electronics => Topic started by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 06:38:36 PM

Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 06:38:36 PM
I have been tring to install an aftermarket cd player in my Mark and would like to retain the factory amp. I got the Scosche wiring harness, got all that junk hooked up, except for the 1 red wire that was bolted to the back of the factory stereo. I'm pretty sure that it is just a ground, but when I ground it I get no sound, but if I leave it disconnected to anything, I get power and sound, but it will cut out when turned up a littlle loud. I have no idea what to do with the red wire, I know it is a common ground system, and I think I used this on my 20th back when I was in high school  http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/151/sfID2/159/productID/999 (http://"http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/151/sfID2/159/productID/999") and I got it working with that, I just don't remember what I did with the red wire that was bolted to the back of the factory radio..... Would I connect that to the black wire coming out of the scosche interface in the link?
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 07:50:22 PM
I didnt use any contraption like that when I hooked up my aftermarket deck in my Mark 7 But my car was an 88 I think the wiring is different .
 So I dont think I can help .
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 07:55:53 PM
Did you have the red wire bolted to the back of the stock radio?
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: 20thanniver-ls;337649
Did you have the red wire bolted to the back of the stock radio?


Nope , the 84-87 is a common ground system the later ones are not

sorry
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 08:06:16 PM
Just a thought , did you try reducing the gain on your adapter thingy
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
Ah, I did not know that. Well, I bought the interface anyhow, we will se how it goes...
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 08:10:54 PM
Quote from: hypostang;337651
Just a thought , did you try reducing the gain on your adapter thingy


I was trying to install it without the adapter, I have the adapter now, hooking up wires as I type ;)
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
There is an audio section on that other forum I told you about
You may find some help there
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 09:07:02 PM
Didn't find much there for an 87 mark.... 

I know there is a non factory amp connector in thunderbirds and cougars - but I can't seem to find one for the Mark..... That would be the way to go LOL
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 10:09:24 PM
Do you have the big JBL amp? If so I have a harness to by pass it that you can have
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 10:14:23 PM
I'm really not sure, I know it has premium sound, but don't know if it's the JBL system or not. Do you have a part number or link to where I can see what the bypass look like?
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 10:19:37 PM
this is the bypass unit
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 10:44:10 PM
And that hooks up to the amp?
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 10:59:05 PM
no it by-passes the factory JBL amp
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 11:06:11 PM
Where does it plug in? Or does it plug into the speaker harness inside the dash to bypass the amp?
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 11:07:57 PM
In the trunk , at the amp .
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 11:11:28 PM
Ah I see.... And that would make the factory amp pretty much obsloete and I wouldn't have to worry about the red wire that was hooked up to the back of  the stock radio (which I found out was the ground for the factory amp)
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 11:19:42 PM
Exactly But I only have the one for the JBL amp

that looks like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-Lincoln-Mark-VII-LSC-Factory-JBL-Amplifier-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230a71b98cQQitemZ150499080588QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 11:27:54 PM
I justtook a look in my trunk and although I couldn't tell what my factory amp looked like, it dosen't look like the JBL in the link you posted
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 11:35:15 PM
Well that will not work then , dang
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on October 02, 2010, 11:43:23 PM
Yea, that sucks. I may just run new wiring to all the speakers and only use the stock harness for power, seems like  that may be the way to go
Title: Retaining Factory Amp
Post by: hypostang on October 02, 2010, 11:47:25 PM
I'm afraid you may be correct , that seems to be how most people have worked around the common ground system