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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 24, 2010, 02:44:21 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 24, 2010, 02:44:21 AM
i'm by no means an EFI guy, unless it's something simple like holley, F.A.S.T., etc etc.. i'm currently building my 306 to put in my buddy josh's truck(for shop rep.. and to tick off some(or most) chevy guys). the truck is a 95 S10, yep.. a chevy. kind of a slap in the face to all the people who disgrace a ford by putting a chevy motor under the hood..
anyway, for my swap question.. as far as dropping the motor in, i've got that covered.. how hard is it to wire in an explorer harness and ecu?i already realize the obvious, the gauges are going to be a pain in the a** to wire, so i'm just planning on going mechanical gauges for the time being.
The reason for wanting to go EFI is i already have the upper and lower intake and have access to the harness and ecu.. and it would be easy to have tuned for a turbo after the motor is broken in.
no smack talk please, i hear enough from the chevy guys ;)
just for fun, here are a couple pics of the motor so far and 1 of the truck it's going in
anyway, for my swap question.. as far as dropping the motor in, i've got that covered.. how hard is it to wire in an explorer harness and ecu?i already realize the obvious, the gauges are going to be a pain in the a** to wire, so i'm just planning on going mechanical gauges for the time being.
The reason for wanting to go EFI is i already have the upper and lower intake and have access to the harness and ecu.. and it would be easy to have tuned for a turbo after the motor is broken in.
no smack talk please, i hear enough from the chevy guys ;)
just for fun, here are a couple pics of the motor so far and 1 of the truck it's going in
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Post by: Kitz Kat on September 24, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
Post by: Kitz Kat on September 24, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
First off way to go! How good are your wiring skills? I got more ? than answer's now. You want efi? What tranny? That's the first few questions.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 24, 2010, 04:21:36 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 24, 2010, 04:21:36 PM
i love the durability of a stock C6.. so for now, this truck will be rolling around with a stock C6 until the motor is broken in.. then the motor is getting a turbo and the trans is getting a TCI pro super rebuild kit so it can hold up to the motor..
my wiring skills are pretty good, but like most people.. I HATE WIRING! i rewired most of my first car (88 tbird sport), so i know i'm capable of doing so.
and as for EFI, yeah. i love carbs but EFI would be better suited for this setup in the long run.. i would love to get a holley commander or F.A.S.T. injection system, but it's just not going to happen right now.
i'm open to all questions.. i (usually) have answers :D
my wiring skills are pretty good, but like most people.. I HATE WIRING! i rewired most of my first car (88 tbird sport), so i know i'm capable of doing so.
and as for EFI, yeah. i love carbs but EFI would be better suited for this setup in the long run.. i would love to get a holley commander or F.A.S.T. injection system, but it's just not going to happen right now.
i'm open to all questions.. i (usually) have answers :D
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Post by: bigbada1 on September 24, 2010, 04:55:42 PM
Post by: bigbada1 on September 24, 2010, 04:55:42 PM
Really the wiring shouldn't be all that bad besides getting power to a few different spots ie constant power/ startpower/ running power other than the power the ecm really is mostly standalone expecically if you are going to run all mechanical gauges. What are you going to do as far as fuel delivery?
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 24, 2010, 09:28:04 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 24, 2010, 09:28:04 PM
fuel delivery will be an electric pump, whether it's injected or carb'd, with AN lines and fittings from front to back.. if it goes EFI, i'll use the BBK 255 in-tank pump that was in my SC.. if it goes carb, i'll use my Holley red electric with regulator and return line
the gauges will only be mechanical for the time being.. until i feel like tackling that headache. at least the gas gauge and speedo will still work.. i just have to change the plug on the speedo wires to plug into the ford speed sensor
the gauges will only be mechanical for the time being.. until i feel like tackling that headache. at least the gas gauge and speedo will still work.. i just have to change the plug on the speedo wires to plug into the ford speed sensor
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Post by: CoogarXR on September 24, 2010, 10:05:23 PM
Post by: CoogarXR on September 24, 2010, 10:05:23 PM
Was that truck a 4.3 with the tbi? If so, you can get an adapter plate for the tbi and a hei style distributor (they make 'em for ford small blocks) and make it work. Then there would be less wiring issues. Obviously, this isn't the trick for high HP, but it would suit a daily driver.
There's tons of web sites about using tbi on ford if you are interested.
There's tons of web sites about using tbi on ford if you are interested.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 24, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 24, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
nah, 2.2L junk 4 banger. and it's a bit of daily driver/track truck, so whatever the setup winds up as, it'll be built to go to the track and play. i've had a lot of bad experiences with TBI anyway, but thanks for the info
as far as the HEI style distributor, i have 2 of them :D lol
as far as the HEI style distributor, i have 2 of them :D lol
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 25, 2010, 03:33:57 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 25, 2010, 03:33:57 AM
alright.. the first configuration(mainly just for break-in time) is set in stone because of a time issue.. i can only have the truck for 3 days, fri-sun, because my buddy josh's wife works all week except those days every other week.
the motor mounts will be fabbed on my 88 S10 frame with a stock 302 short block i have. i just have to put the front half of my cab back on and block it up to where it should sit. i already had my 306 block with oil pan and filter in the frame of my 88 to get an idea for motor mounts. i'll attach a pic of that, just so you can see how well it fits in the frame rails. just to give you a basic idea of the mounts, they will bolt to the block in the usual location and down to the stock GM mounts. as for the trans mount, i'm not 100% sure yet, i have to wait until i get my block and trans in the frame to figure that out.. but either way, i have to modify the crossmember because the GM trans mount is a single stud and the C6 obviously has a double stud mount.
as for the motor setup, i'm just going to use my HEI style distributor with a 2 barrel carb and intake i have laying in my shed with a mechanical pump to make it simple and fast once the motor is in. main reason for doing that is, josh's wife has a lead foot. i can richen the carb up a little to keep the power down and keep her from beating on it hard.
i'm in no way ruling out doing the EFI, that will just have to come on another weekend that she's off for those 3 days. also, in the time the motor is running a carb, i can assemble the top end on my stock, empty block, bolt my EFI setup on top, modify my mid-lengths and build my turbo setup. that, again, will have to wait for yet another 3 day weekend so i can bolt everything up, run all the oil/cooling lines and take it to get dyno tuned.
anyway.. if you read this far.. here are a couple pics of my block in my 88 frame and a pic of 1 of my painted GT40 heads that i just did. the block sitting in the frame where it's sitting is a bit low, it would need to sit 3/4-1" higher.
the motor mounts will be fabbed on my 88 S10 frame with a stock 302 short block i have. i just have to put the front half of my cab back on and block it up to where it should sit. i already had my 306 block with oil pan and filter in the frame of my 88 to get an idea for motor mounts. i'll attach a pic of that, just so you can see how well it fits in the frame rails. just to give you a basic idea of the mounts, they will bolt to the block in the usual location and down to the stock GM mounts. as for the trans mount, i'm not 100% sure yet, i have to wait until i get my block and trans in the frame to figure that out.. but either way, i have to modify the crossmember because the GM trans mount is a single stud and the C6 obviously has a double stud mount.
as for the motor setup, i'm just going to use my HEI style distributor with a 2 barrel carb and intake i have laying in my shed with a mechanical pump to make it simple and fast once the motor is in. main reason for doing that is, josh's wife has a lead foot. i can richen the carb up a little to keep the power down and keep her from beating on it hard.
i'm in no way ruling out doing the EFI, that will just have to come on another weekend that she's off for those 3 days. also, in the time the motor is running a carb, i can assemble the top end on my stock, empty block, bolt my EFI setup on top, modify my mid-lengths and build my turbo setup. that, again, will have to wait for yet another 3 day weekend so i can bolt everything up, run all the oil/cooling lines and take it to get dyno tuned.
anyway.. if you read this far.. here are a couple pics of my block in my 88 frame and a pic of 1 of my painted GT40 heads that i just did. the block sitting in the frame where it's sitting is a bit low, it would need to sit 3/4-1" higher.
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 25, 2010, 08:16:41 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 25, 2010, 08:16:41 PM
UPS must know it's my birthday.. these just came in the mail.. the timing gears and head bolts are for a customers motor. the cam and roller rockers are for mine.
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 27, 2010, 07:34:03 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 27, 2010, 07:34:03 PM
well, since the weather today sucks and i can't work on my truck and there's no power in the shop for me to work on my capri, i decided to clean up my block and pulleys and lay some paint on them. the block is going chevy orange and a good deal of the other under-hood parts are being painted silver or getting polished. note to self, rustolium aluminum paint is TERRIBLE, it looks just like that nasty 'chrome' paint and leaves a chalk-like residue on top, too. but anyway, this is what i've got done so far..
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Post by: Haystack on September 27, 2010, 11:53:38 PM
Post by: Haystack on September 27, 2010, 11:53:38 PM
I like the idea of a ford in a chevy, but you would be alot better off with a chevy motor.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 28, 2010, 01:51:18 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 28, 2010, 01:51:18 AM
nah, everyone does a sbc in an S10.. if i was to put anything else in it, it would be a BBC, but i have this motor and a couple other SBF's, so it is what it is lol plus a BBC swap is something i can't tackle in 3 days, start to finish and drive it out. not on my own at least
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 28, 2010, 02:37:16 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 28, 2010, 02:37:16 AM
more boredem during lousy weather pics.. still waiting on my timing chain, gasket set and head studs to finish the longblock
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Post by: Dougy_Fresh on October 01, 2010, 12:55:31 AM
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on October 01, 2010, 12:55:31 AM
i want to do the same thing, except i want to do it with a first gen extended cab s10...
as for EFI, why not use a simplified 89-93 mustang harness and ECU? would be a lot simpler than the coil pack setup on an explorer...not to mention a lot cleaner looking...you could run all of the wires in one loom straight through a hole (grommeted of course) in the firewall directly behind the engine and hide the majority of the ones for running the engine under the intake and fuel rails...
i foresee plumbing the power steering being the most time comsuming part of this swap...
and i LOVE ford engines in chevy's, i have a 56 chevy truck thats BEGGING me to put a 400m/c6 setup in it...and i happen to know where that setup is, and it's cheap to boot.
as for EFI, why not use a simplified 89-93 mustang harness and ECU? would be a lot simpler than the coil pack setup on an explorer...not to mention a lot cleaner looking...you could run all of the wires in one loom straight through a hole (grommeted of course) in the firewall directly behind the engine and hide the majority of the ones for running the engine under the intake and fuel rails...
i foresee plumbing the power steering being the most time comsuming part of this swap...
and i LOVE ford engines in chevy's, i have a 56 chevy truck thats BEGGING me to put a 400m/c6 setup in it...and i happen to know where that setup is, and it's cheap to boot.
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Post by: Beau on October 01, 2010, 02:42:25 AM
Post by: Beau on October 01, 2010, 02:42:25 AM
I have a Zenith about identical to that one there...it's only 17 years old, still works like new.
Oh, hard to look at that 5.0 block painted Junk Orange....but I to confess to driving a shiznitrolet for a daily...can't knock your project-least yours has the heart of Ford going for it lol.
More pics as progress...well, progresses, lol.
Oh, hard to look at that 5.0 block painted Junk Orange....but I to confess to driving a shiznitrolet for a daily...can't knock your project-least yours has the heart of Ford going for it lol.
More pics as progress...well, progresses, lol.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 01, 2010, 03:15:35 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 01, 2010, 03:15:35 AM
Quote from: Dougy_Fresh;337460
i want to do the same thing, except i want to do it with a first gen extended cab s10...
as for EFI, why not use a simplified 89-93 mustang harness and ECU? would be a lot simpler than the coil pack setup on an explorer...not to mention a lot cleaner looking...you could run all of the wires in one loom straight through a hole (grommeted of course) in the firewall directly behind the engine and hide the majority of the ones for running the engine under the intake and fuel rails...
i foresee plumbing the power steering being the most time comsuming part of this swap...
and i LOVE ford engines in chevy's, i have a 56 chevy truck thats BEGGING me to put a 400m/c6 setup in it...and i happen to know where that setup is, and it's cheap to boot.
hahahah.. this same motor setup is going in my 88 next year(which this motor was originally intended for), and it's an ext cab to boot lol.. well, used to be.. building a quad cab ext cab, which is on hold until i find a 4 door blazer to cut up for the door pillars, doors and related sheet metal.
as for the EFI harness, i picked up a 93 5.0 bird harness (MAF) and ECU off a friend of mine from a club i used to belong to, who went with a carb'd 351w. so that'll more than likely be the harness i use so i can grab an MSD distributor and do it up that way. i'd rather just go with a F.A.S.T. injection system right off the bat, but i just can't fork out that much cash on it right now, because of the capri.. hell, i wish i could toss a F.A.S.T. setup on that, but i have to worry about getting the car SFI certified and street/race ready.
and as for power steering, it looks like it may be a simple line hook up and go. i tried my pressure line on my 88's steering box and it went it fine.. sealing may be a different story, so i may have to get a custom line made. the return line is obviously simple lol
and i love the torque monster 400M's, i had 1 in my F250 and bronco.. you should put it in your 56, it would be 1 really mean truck. i don't know how knowledgeable you are on the 400's, but there are a couple things you should do to help it stay together better
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 01, 2010, 03:30:23 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 01, 2010, 03:30:23 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;337468
I have a Zenith about identical to that one there...it's only 17 years old, still works like new.
Oh, hard to look at that 5.0 block painted Junk Orange....but I to confess to driving a shiznitrolet for a daily...can't knock your project-least yours has the heart of Ford going for it lol.
More pics as progress...well, progresses, lol.
at first i didn't know what you were talking about lol. it actually works, it's supposed to go to the shop, but i have yet to build a 'break room'.. better known as 'the room all the kids will go in to stay out of our hair.' hahahah
the orange is probably getting covered up by red, to match the paint we're laying out on the truck while it's sitting in the shop, getting god knows what done to it. it's going black/red like josh's old 91 std cab short bed that i painted, but this 1 is actually getting painted with a gun, not rattle can lol..
as for pics, i'll be posting more as it moves along.. still waiting on my timing chain, gasket set, head studs and pushrods to finish up the long block.. then i have to spend some time in the shop and build the motor mounts and get the trans crossmember situated.. fuuuuunnnn
Note: in the top left corner of the pic, that's me looking like a scruffy dirtbag with my beard lol
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 03, 2010, 06:21:59 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 03, 2010, 06:21:59 PM
well, still waiting on parts.. i'm not buying from ebay anymore, unless i'm willing to wait 2 weeks to get my stuff.. 13 (business days) and counting on my studs and timing chain. but i did get my power steering mount figured out. using a V-belt bracket (which mounts higher) with my serpentine pump. had i figured this out sooner, my bronco and cougar would have had power steering lol
but i guess it's a bit of a good thing i haven't been able to work on the motor or capri this past week. i got to run my micro friday and last night. motor blew up friday night, which i should have seen coming. last night didn't go too bad with my backup motor.. started last in the feature after the field inversion and finished 4th out of a field of 19 cars. had a lot of people looking the car over, which is good for business :D
but i guess it's a bit of a good thing i haven't been able to work on the motor or capri this past week. i got to run my micro friday and last night. motor blew up friday night, which i should have seen coming. last night didn't go too bad with my backup motor.. started last in the feature after the field inversion and finished 4th out of a field of 19 cars. had a lot of people looking the car over, which is good for business :D
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 06, 2010, 04:42:52 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 06, 2010, 04:42:52 AM
something to make life a whole lot easier.. B&M trans pan drain plug :hick:
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 06, 2010, 09:08:14 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 06, 2010, 09:08:14 PM
this showed up today :D
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Post by: 86XR7project on October 07, 2010, 05:36:18 PM
Post by: 86XR7project on October 07, 2010, 05:36:18 PM
I like the idea man, that'll chap a few GM asses.
I've been wanting to do a motor swap car for a while now. I really have been wanting to do a SBF E36 BMW lately.
I've been wanting to do a motor swap car for a while now. I really have been wanting to do a SBF E36 BMW lately.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 07, 2010, 06:03:01 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 07, 2010, 06:03:01 PM
i'm more of an american car guy.. but that'd be sweet lol
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 15, 2010, 09:29:54 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 15, 2010, 09:29:54 AM
and the swap starts tonight.. finally gathered all my stuff and picked up a parker funnel web intake.. talk about HUGE.. this thread will start getting flooded with pictures tonight.. lol
(http://www.parkerracing.com.au/images/manifolds/302polishedft200.jpg)
(http://www.parkerracing.com.au/images/manifolds/302polishedft200.jpg)
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Post by: gotomgo on October 15, 2010, 12:01:31 PM
Post by: gotomgo on October 15, 2010, 12:01:31 PM
ditch the explore ecm and harness. go with painless
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Post by: Dougy_Fresh on October 15, 2010, 04:09:10 PM
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on October 15, 2010, 04:09:10 PM
oh the agony. pics by midnight or ban!
i really want to see this one done...if i keep having stupid little issues out of my car i'm reeeallllyyy leaning towards putting the engine and trans in an s10....
i really want to see this one done...if i keep having stupid little issues out of my car i'm reeeallllyyy leaning towards putting the engine and trans in an s10....
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 15, 2010, 09:48:37 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 15, 2010, 09:48:37 PM
didn't get a chance to start tonight, electric company never came out to fix the power line at the pole.. assholes!!!!
and i've decided to stay carb.. i don't really know why i was thinking of going with injection.. plus i picked up another blow-through carb the other night.. so it's still getting boosted, probably in a month or so, after it hits the 500 mile mark and all is good an well
and i've decided to stay carb.. i don't really know why i was thinking of going with injection.. plus i picked up another blow-through carb the other night.. so it's still getting boosted, probably in a month or so, after it hits the 500 mile mark and all is good an well
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 16, 2010, 05:37:14 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 16, 2010, 05:37:14 AM
first order of business today.. go to the junkyard and grab an explorer oil filter relocator.. when i originally mocked the motor up in my frame, it had the power steering box, but not the shaft that runs to the column.. issue number 1, easy solution lol
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Post by: Dougy_Fresh on October 16, 2010, 05:59:45 PM
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on October 16, 2010, 05:59:45 PM
so i assume s10's and rangers have the same problem of needing a 90* filter relocator when doing a v8 swap?
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 07, 2010, 09:27:16 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 07, 2010, 09:27:16 PM
FINALLY able to get on here on my phone lol.. anyway, the swap is done, just fighting motor issues now.. sadly, there's more room under the hood now than there was with the 2.2.. go figure.. just fighting some motor gremlins now.. i have a sound like a rod knock that showed up out of nowhere and it's driving me insane.. will post all the pics once i'm able to jump online.. everything went pretty smooth.. had a small driveshaft issue but the 4wd short shaft out of my sonoma solved the problem
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 08, 2010, 11:35:23 PM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 08, 2010, 11:35:23 PM
alright, finally on the computer.. i don't have all the pictures, since we were using 2 cameras and mine got wet and is now trashed.. will post the rest after they're sent to my email.. but here you go.. last 3 are from 3-4 days ago and more has been finished since then
but, no more talking, time for pics lol
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but, no more talking, time for pics lol
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/3genracing/josh%2095/SANY0027.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/3genracing/josh%2095/SANY0028.jpg)
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Post by: CatCarMan2012 on November 08, 2010, 11:47:30 PM
Post by: CatCarMan2012 on November 08, 2010, 11:47:30 PM
Thats awesome. How does it run?
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 09, 2010, 12:11:10 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 09, 2010, 12:11:10 AM
like , i hate holleys lol there's something wrong with the vacuum secondaires and the primaries are all out of whack.. looking for an edelbrock as we speak, since i have a few jet and rebuild kits laying around for them.. breaks the tires loose at 1/4 throttle though, before the vacuum secondaries open and start dumping too much fuel
but all in all, so far so good aside from the crank hitting the pickup and the screwed up carb.. had an issue with the intake leaking in the back, thought it was warped but it just the rear seal.. the silicone on the bottom side of it never dried and it slipped right out the first time i fired it up so i went with the rubber end seals this time around.. good to go now.. needs duals though, it's way too quiet lol
but all in all, so far so good aside from the crank hitting the pickup and the screwed up carb.. had an issue with the intake leaking in the back, thought it was warped but it just the rear seal.. the silicone on the bottom side of it never dried and it slipped right out the first time i fired it up so i went with the rubber end seals this time around.. good to go now.. needs duals though, it's way too quiet lol
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 09, 2010, 01:03:24 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 09, 2010, 01:03:24 AM
here are some other pics i took with my phone.. forgot i uploaded them to facebook.. lol.. also thought i'd throw in the pic of the back seat we installed.. fits amazingly.. comfortable enough for me to sit my fat ass back there lol
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on November 19, 2010, 10:17:07 AM
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on November 19, 2010, 10:17:07 AM
dodge dakota seat?
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 20, 2010, 03:44:57 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 20, 2010, 03:44:57 AM
yup lol they fit perfectly
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 20, 2010, 04:14:36 AM
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on November 20, 2010, 04:14:36 AM
ok, took some pics of it with my phone.. they kind of suck, but i was using a drop light at night lol.. mind you, it's still not 100% done.. just ordered a breather top to hook up a 'cold air' intake tube so i'm not wasting money on a regular breather when it's going boost once the motor has 500 miles on it.. also ordered a new set of taylor wires, a 7 quart front sump pan with pickup and a remote mount oil filter relocator and cooler with drilled/tapped holes for AN fittings for when it goes boost.. i got the holley tuned a bit better and was actually able to smoke the tires up a bit.. going to the junkyard soon for an exploder 8.8 because the 7.5 GM rear won't last very long with the way we drive.. LOL
also, had a chevy guy scratching his head at it for about 10 minutes before he figured out it was a sbf sitting in there.. he actually loved it, said the same thing i said.. 'it gets boring when you open the hood and see a sbc sitting in the frame rails of yet another S10.'
also, had a chevy guy scratching his head at it for about 10 minutes before he figured out it was a sbf sitting in there.. he actually loved it, said the same thing i said.. 'it gets boring when you open the hood and see a sbc sitting in the frame rails of yet another S10.'
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on September 23, 2011, 05:05:34 PM
Post by: Shadow on September 23, 2011, 05:05:34 PM
this poor girl has been neglected for some time now.. all she sees is daily driving duty and is still running NA, because my buddies durango blew up.. she's running really healthy after he bought a new holley carb for it. hopefully, in the next few weeks, he'll pick up a daily beater car so this dirty little girl can see some tinkering time this winter
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on October 25, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
Post by: Shadow on October 25, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
she lost some oil pressure, i think it spun a cam bearing because it was idling warm at 25psi 1 day, 10 the next.. i'll find out when i pull the motor to build a tubular crossmember so i can put a rear sump pan back on it.. going to swap the oil pump and hit it with a drill.. if it was just the pump, back on the road she goes.. if not, she stays off the road and gets new 10:1 pistons, moly rings and more headwork.. that'll also give me time to FINALLY finish the headers lol
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: dudeman351 on October 25, 2011, 09:32:28 PM
Post by: dudeman351 on October 25, 2011, 09:32:28 PM
I LOVE IT!!! finally a chevy worth something.
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on October 25, 2011, 10:21:15 PM
Post by: Shadow on October 25, 2011, 10:21:15 PM
i'm sorry to say, my top 2 favorite cars are chevys.. foxes come 3rd.. please don't shun me from the ford world :( lmao
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on November 20, 2011, 04:06:53 AM
Post by: Shadow on November 20, 2011, 04:06:53 AM
she's finally in her winter home.. FINALLY I SAY! since my buddy picked up a honda to replace it's daily driver beating, the S10 is officially off the road for the winter. first things first, the front clip and bed are coming off so the motor can come out and the rear frame clip can be narrowed all at once. not narrowing it much, just enough to get the hoosier 27x11's to stop rubbing the bed/frame when making a turn. it'll basically become a 4" overall minitub.. going with a disk exploder rear as well, since it will fit perfectly under the truck with the mini tub and backspacing of the wheels. only other mods required for the 8.8 are having the wheels re-drilled for the 5x4.5 lug pattern and ditching the boring leaf springs for a triangulated 4 link and coilovers.
while the minitub, 4 link, coilovers and coilover mounts are being built, the block is going back to the machine shop for new cam bearings, a dip in the hot tank and new freeze plugs. once it comes back, i'll slap the heads and new 7qt oil pan on and start on my bolt-in tubular crossmember. i'll start by welding a temporary crossmember across the front and roughly where the bellhousing would rest to keep the frame from moving when i cut out the existing factory crossmember. i'll then trim around the lower control arms and mounts in preparation to close them off with some 1/4" plate with pre-drilled holes and nuts welded to the back-side for the new crossmember to bolt to. from that point, i will lower the motor into the frame rails and start bending/cutting/welding the new tubular crossmember and mounting plates. i'll be leaving the factory GM motor mount surface in it's place, so i can re-use the original mounts that i built. the mounts currently in use push the motor forward 4" from the original location in order to use the front sump pan, which created other problems that brought the sawzall to the rad support :( . the new configuration will also allow more run for my headers and the starter. at this point, the motor has to be lifted 3-4 inches to remove the starter, because of the way the stock crossmember is configured.
once the crossmember is tacked, the motor will come out so the welding can be finished and the motor will be put back on the stand, where it will be pushed aside and wait for assembly. at that point (here's the part you should all like), it becomes a little more ford than chevy. the stock steering box causes too many problems, so.. a mustang power steering rack comes into play. i'll build a special (stationary) crossmember for the rack and weld it to the frame. at this point, i'll probably have to make my own steering shaft that'll mount to the column and rack, which i'll figure out when the time comes. this will eliminate the junk chevy tie rods and ridiculous idler arm setup. if i remember right, the mustang tie rods are the perfect size for the S10 spindles. if not, i'll have to switch to hiem ends and call it a day.
and finally onto the drivetrain.. first, the motor-
most of the motor is staying the same, but i'm sending the heads to the machine shop to get decked and having them hot tanked as well. before they go, i'll do a little more port work on the valve end of things. since we're no longer throwing a turbo at it, the low compression KB pistons will get pressed off the rods, wrapped up and put in a box for another build down the line. they'll be replaced with a new, higher compression set of KB FHR's to hopefully push somewhere in the ballpark of 10.3-10.6:1, depending on the heads. other than a bigger/better cam (going roller this time) and some more intake port clean-up, everything else will remain the same.
the C6 is getting ditched. josh's F150's C6 is starting to slip a bit, so we'll save the trans for that. after the S10 is done, that'll be the next project in the garage.. in it's place will be a built T5. i can get a good donor from the junkyard and rebuild it on the bench, once the motor is done. only other things getting done after that are a new 1 piece driveshaft (instead of the junk 2 piece with carrier bearing) and the gauges.
look, pictures and sketches!
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while the minitub, 4 link, coilovers and coilover mounts are being built, the block is going back to the machine shop for new cam bearings, a dip in the hot tank and new freeze plugs. once it comes back, i'll slap the heads and new 7qt oil pan on and start on my bolt-in tubular crossmember. i'll start by welding a temporary crossmember across the front and roughly where the bellhousing would rest to keep the frame from moving when i cut out the existing factory crossmember. i'll then trim around the lower control arms and mounts in preparation to close them off with some 1/4" plate with pre-drilled holes and nuts welded to the back-side for the new crossmember to bolt to. from that point, i will lower the motor into the frame rails and start bending/cutting/welding the new tubular crossmember and mounting plates. i'll be leaving the factory GM motor mount surface in it's place, so i can re-use the original mounts that i built. the mounts currently in use push the motor forward 4" from the original location in order to use the front sump pan, which created other problems that brought the sawzall to the rad support :( . the new configuration will also allow more run for my headers and the starter. at this point, the motor has to be lifted 3-4 inches to remove the starter, because of the way the stock crossmember is configured.
once the crossmember is tacked, the motor will come out so the welding can be finished and the motor will be put back on the stand, where it will be pushed aside and wait for assembly. at that point (here's the part you should all like), it becomes a little more ford than chevy. the stock steering box causes too many problems, so.. a mustang power steering rack comes into play. i'll build a special (stationary) crossmember for the rack and weld it to the frame. at this point, i'll probably have to make my own steering shaft that'll mount to the column and rack, which i'll figure out when the time comes. this will eliminate the junk chevy tie rods and ridiculous idler arm setup. if i remember right, the mustang tie rods are the perfect size for the S10 spindles. if not, i'll have to switch to hiem ends and call it a day.
and finally onto the drivetrain.. first, the motor-
most of the motor is staying the same, but i'm sending the heads to the machine shop to get decked and having them hot tanked as well. before they go, i'll do a little more port work on the valve end of things. since we're no longer throwing a turbo at it, the low compression KB pistons will get pressed off the rods, wrapped up and put in a box for another build down the line. they'll be replaced with a new, higher compression set of KB FHR's to hopefully push somewhere in the ballpark of 10.3-10.6:1, depending on the heads. other than a bigger/better cam (going roller this time) and some more intake port clean-up, everything else will remain the same.
the C6 is getting ditched. josh's F150's C6 is starting to slip a bit, so we'll save the trans for that. after the S10 is done, that'll be the next project in the garage.. in it's place will be a built T5. i can get a good donor from the junkyard and rebuild it on the bench, once the motor is done. only other things getting done after that are a new 1 piece driveshaft (instead of the junk 2 piece with carrier bearing) and the gauges.
look, pictures and sketches!
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/310860_10150882992510335_585700334_21558991_588453356_n.jpg)
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on November 29, 2011, 07:57:50 PM
Post by: Shadow on November 29, 2011, 07:57:50 PM
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may be a change of plans in the works.. i just scored super amazing deal on a 408 longblock with RHS pro action heads and fox swap headers, so i'm going to see if i can make it work when the 306 comes out. may have to mod the firewall a little to clear the heads/valvecovers because of the taller/wider deck.. a geo metro booster may be in order too, just for the extra inch or so of clearance.. on the passenger side, the stock AC/heater box needs to be ditched and a custom box needs to be built to keep the blower motor in use.. since the headers are for a fox 351 swap, so they'll have to be modified quite a bit to work. i've seen the motor go 10.03 with a 150 shot, a torker II intake and holley 770(vacuum secondary junk) in an 87 notch with a C4. whether the motor will work in the truck on not, it'll get topped off with a funnel web i have sitting on the shelf (i have a bunch of these things lol) and an edelbrock 800
the reason i got such an amazing deal on it, is because it's been blowing head gaskets at the top end (about 50ft out from the 1/4 mile mark). luckily, it was a strict track car, so it wasn't driven long enough to overheat.. so, if i find that i can make it work under the hood of the S10, i'll disassemble it and send the crank, rods, heads and block to the machine shop to get checked out and have the necessary machine work done. depending on the shape of the pistons, i may have them pressed off the rods and replace them with KB FHR's
on another side note, i started building the 4 link. i got as far as the 2 lower bars done and the axle brackets done. before we start messing with any of that, we're going to shove the bed closer to the cab to close up the cab/bed gap a little (it's about 1-1/2") to around 1/2", so the rear will be getting pulled forward a little to keep the rear centered in the wheel well.. and thaaaaaat will have to wait until the frame gets narrowed.. that will also help with planting the rear wheels a little better when it launches.. the lower link bars i built are 30" long bar end hole to bar end hole, with both bar ends screwed all the way in.. that'll help get the tires planted a little better as well, along with the S10 blazer gas tank we decided to go with.. the blazer tank mounts between the frame rails behind the rear, where the pickup tank mounts to the driver side in front of the rear.. with moving the tank, the long arm 4 link and moving the rear forward an inch, the truck will hook a lot better than it ever would with the stock setup
we should be starting on the truck just after xmas, after gathering the rest of the parts and materials.. then it should be back on the streets killing hondas and dakota RT's (and some mustangs, too LOL) by april at the latest
i'm lazy, so i just copied what i typed up on sbf tech lol
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on November 29, 2011, 08:02:04 PM
Post by: Shadow on November 29, 2011, 08:02:04 PM
scored a couple things from the junkyard today.. found a rack out of an 89 vert that looks pretty new, still has a legible 'reman' sticker on it, so i yanked it out and grabbed the PS lines (they looked new as well). also picked up an exploder rear. they knocked a few bucks off because the carrier and brake parts were missing, only wound up paying $45 instead of $75
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on December 23, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
Post by: Shadow on December 23, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
so much for her winter home, she's sharing yard space with the white TC now.. going to try getting the exhaust off and get started on the headers, as well as the new motor mounts to slide the motor back (again :punchballs:).. here's a pic of her at the gas station before she made her hour and a half trip from my buddy's in DE to here.. love this picture, makes the truck look clean and mean
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on December 27, 2011, 06:16:24 PM
Post by: Shadow on December 27, 2011, 06:16:24 PM
hmm..
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jumped back on the headers.. i'll finish them off after i get the motor slid back
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jumped back on the headers.. i'll finish them off after i get the motor slid back
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on January 04, 2012, 11:40:21 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 04, 2012, 11:40:21 PM
making some headway in getting it disassembled.. putting the rest of the headers on hold until the motor is slid back.. thinking about setting it up to use fox mustang mounts this time around, but we'll see how a stock pair from the junkyard work out, before i buy a decent set of aftermarket mounts.. i need to pull the motor first and get a rear sump pan back on it and start the new crossmember and rack mounts first.. while the motor's out, i'll also be modifying the firewall a bit, so i can slip the motor back a little more and still be able to get the driver side head off, without pulling the motor forward.. 'just in case' lol.. then the motor goes for a trip to the machine shop again, to get dipped and also having the heads decked for a compression bump
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on January 05, 2012, 10:48:02 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 05, 2012, 10:48:02 PM
got a little bit done today.. ripped out all the steering and swaybar.. now i can run a normal size oil filter, since i'm putting a mustang rack in it.. i may start on that tomorrow, we'll see.. i'd like to do the 5 lug swap on my tc tomorrow, since it's going to be nice and the car is sitting on blocks
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 09:47:35 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 09:47:35 PM
got the top end torn down.. heads are going to the machine shop in the morning for decking and a quick swim in the hot tank.. going to make a pair of mock up mounts tomorrow, with slotted holes, so i can slide it back and forth until i find the sweet spot.. then i'll start on the new crossmember
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on January 11, 2012, 08:57:57 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 11, 2012, 08:57:57 PM
well, i wasn't much in the mood to play with steel today, so i took the route everyone hates.. tackling wiring.. i got most of the passenger side OE harness trimmed down and shortened, as well as finding certain things a new home.. i re-ran, trimmed down and hid the HVAC and turn signal relays on the side of the firewall, where they'll be hidden behind the fender.. i also popped the blower motor out of the heater box (which is under the hood >:L ) and drilled new holes, so that the plug is on the left side (closest to the fender) instead of on top.. the only thing left to do is trim down the ground wires and ground them where the relays are, instead of under the hood, on the firewall.. tomorrow i'll handle the driverside wiring, which is going to involve pulling the fuse panel, so i can repurpose the ECM fuse slots.. as wall as start hacking into the dash wiring to ditch anything that's not being used or not needed.. this includes the stock cluster and and such, since she'll be rocking new gauges come spring ;)
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on January 12, 2012, 05:22:49 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 12, 2012, 05:22:49 AM
i can't sleep, so what better time to make a rant/list of things to do, so i can TRY staying focused..
first, the ranting.. GM really sucks at wiring.. i'm seriously about to gut the truck of all it's wiring and start fresh.. i started pulling the dash apart to try tracking down the neutral safety wires, so i could set the switch on the shifter up.. talk about a PITFA! my wiring diagrams are ZERO help with this thing, as far as the wiring goes.. i'm seriously contemplating my own harness, using the OEM fuse panel.. i'll give it some serious thought when i'm not running on lack of sleep, we'll see..
ok, list!
- finish passenger side wiring
- build new motor mounts (already made measurements to avoid making 'mock up mounts')
- pull motor/trans
- build new, removable engine crossmember
- build new trans crossmember
- build custom steering shaft to work with mustang rack
- remove everything from firewall/front frame clip
- some slight firewall tpuppies, mostly for appearance
- smooth frame out, remove un-needed things
- degrease firewall, frame and suspension parts, powerwash and spray with primer
- spray frame with rustoleum silver hammertone
- spray firewall duplicolor 'deep blue'
- clear everything
- put the crossmember and suspension back under it, load it on the trailer and drag it back to delaware, where it can go BACK in the garage so the rest of the truck can get taken care of, while i handle the motor here
list of things to do when it goes back in the garage -
- strip interior, remount shifter further back (has 60/40 bench seat now, so when it's in park, the handle is practically touching the dash) and build center console out of aluminum.. josh will handle wrapping it in fiberglass, so he can get it how he wants it
- pull bed, ditch stock gastank, pull rear and start narrowing the frame
- roll explorer rear under, start setting up 4 link and coilovers
- mount fuel cell and finish up fuel lines for mockup
- pull everything back out, paint frame and rear, powdercoat 4 link and cut bed for wheel tubs
- start body work on bed, including the shaved tailgate/rollpan and frenched tagbox
- spray everything blue and gently bolt it back together
- lay out graphics, mask off and spray silver
- pull everything back off and lay 1st 2 coats of clear with pearl
- wet sand with 1500 and lay final layer of clear
- bolt motor and trans back in while everything is still apart, measure for new driveshaft
- start bolting everything back in, put driveshaft in when i get the call that it's done
- fire it up, break the new cam in, make proper adjustments
- kill the streets!
i know i'm missing a few steps, but that'll give you the jist of what needs to be done.. i don't think my white tc is getting very much attention this winter.. definitely need to do the ranger cam and 5 lug swap done next week so i can put it on the road
first, the ranting.. GM really sucks at wiring.. i'm seriously about to gut the truck of all it's wiring and start fresh.. i started pulling the dash apart to try tracking down the neutral safety wires, so i could set the switch on the shifter up.. talk about a PITFA! my wiring diagrams are ZERO help with this thing, as far as the wiring goes.. i'm seriously contemplating my own harness, using the OEM fuse panel.. i'll give it some serious thought when i'm not running on lack of sleep, we'll see..
ok, list!
- finish passenger side wiring
- build new motor mounts (already made measurements to avoid making 'mock up mounts')
- pull motor/trans
- build new, removable engine crossmember
- build new trans crossmember
- build custom steering shaft to work with mustang rack
- remove everything from firewall/front frame clip
- some slight firewall tpuppies, mostly for appearance
- smooth frame out, remove un-needed things
- degrease firewall, frame and suspension parts, powerwash and spray with primer
- spray frame with rustoleum silver hammertone
- spray firewall duplicolor 'deep blue'
- clear everything
- put the crossmember and suspension back under it, load it on the trailer and drag it back to delaware, where it can go BACK in the garage so the rest of the truck can get taken care of, while i handle the motor here
list of things to do when it goes back in the garage -
- strip interior, remount shifter further back (has 60/40 bench seat now, so when it's in park, the handle is practically touching the dash) and build center console out of aluminum.. josh will handle wrapping it in fiberglass, so he can get it how he wants it
- pull bed, ditch stock gastank, pull rear and start narrowing the frame
- roll explorer rear under, start setting up 4 link and coilovers
- mount fuel cell and finish up fuel lines for mockup
- pull everything back out, paint frame and rear, powdercoat 4 link and cut bed for wheel tubs
- start body work on bed, including the shaved tailgate/rollpan and frenched tagbox
- spray everything blue and gently bolt it back together
- lay out graphics, mask off and spray silver
- pull everything back off and lay 1st 2 coats of clear with pearl
- wet sand with 1500 and lay final layer of clear
- bolt motor and trans back in while everything is still apart, measure for new driveshaft
- start bolting everything back in, put driveshaft in when i get the call that it's done
- fire it up, break the new cam in, make proper adjustments
- kill the streets!
i know i'm missing a few steps, but that'll give you the jist of what needs to be done.. i don't think my white tc is getting very much attention this winter.. definitely need to do the ranger cam and 5 lug swap done next week so i can put it on the road
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
i've been procrastinating, BADLY..
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: turbotrav on February 27, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
Post by: turbotrav on February 27, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
Geez.....now that is a big projected....
Good luck,
Travis
Good luck,
Travis
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2012, 10:11:00 PM
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2012, 10:11:00 PM
thanks.. i'm shooting for an april 1st finishing deadline, at least for it to be driveable with the narrowed ass-end.. been contemplating the 408 again, but won't have a final decision until i have the motor and truck in the shop
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on February 28, 2012, 08:19:30 PM
Post by: Shadow on February 28, 2012, 08:19:30 PM
i think it's a little too wide.. LOL i'm not using the outter tie rods though, just the inners.. they're the perfect length to run 2 5/8" steel female heim ends.. just ordered a couple, along with all the male ends i need for the triangulated 4 link.. good news is, with this setup and a little frame cutting/plating, i will be able to run my oil cooler and 90* filter relocater with zero issues.. BYE BYE trashy GM steering :)
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 01, 2012, 09:15:52 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 01, 2012, 09:15:52 PM
oops.. lol
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side note.. bye bye 306.. she's going in the F150, 408 is going in the S10 now, no matter what it takes
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side note.. bye bye 306.. she's going in the F150, 408 is going in the S10 now, no matter what it takes
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 02, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 02, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
and now, for everyone's favorite part.. WIRING!! :barf: i started weeding out all the air bag, heat/AC harness, factory ECU and radio harnesses.. NOT fun
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the last of the under-dash ECU harness
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turn signal relay harness weeded out of the ECU mess.. all wrapped up and ready to go back in already
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the biggest headache is yet to come! the main harness
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the last of the under-dash ECU harness
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turn signal relay harness weeded out of the ECU mess.. all wrapped up and ready to go back in already
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the biggest headache is yet to come! the main harness
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 09, 2012, 07:04:20 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 09, 2012, 07:04:20 PM
poor little 408.. tear down coming soon
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 10, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 10, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
looks funny/retarded, but it served it's purpose.. put some 1-7/16" tubing between the heads and block to simulate the deck height (a little taller, actually) of the 408.. it's actually going to fit with the stock booster
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 11, 2012, 08:57:16 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 11, 2012, 08:57:16 PM
306 is out.. finally
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 20, 2012, 03:40:13 AM
Post by: Shadow on March 20, 2012, 03:40:13 AM
i really need to bring more tools home from the shop.. including jackstands.. LOL.. all mocked up, just need to do a little more welding and i will be able to bolt the rack up.. the tie rods need to be trimmed a bit, but i expected that.. the 2nd to last pic is the start of the storage setup i'm building in the bed.. the compartment came out of my buddy's durango when he put a 3rd row seat in.. needs a little tpuppies to sit level, but it'll work out decent i suppose.. basically going to cap it with sheet metal, pull off the upholstery and paint it.. the last pic is the gas filler cap i'll be using.. it came off a boat i cut up lol it was too pretty to toss in the s pile.. it'll get mounted just to the left of where the compartment sits.. i'll have to make a little hump for it to clear the compartment, as it'll have to cut under it to get to the top of the fuel cell.. hopefully i'll be starting on the cell soon, too.. i really need to get the motor to the shop and get it torn apart.. i'm severely slacking on that aspect lol
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 08:26:42 AM
Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 08:26:42 AM
just ordered my female rod ends for the rack.. they should be here by the end of the week.. so today's goal is to get the rack mounts welded, steering shaft built and the frame boxed back up.. as well as setting the crossmember up for fox mustang solid mounts..
need to get the rack 100% done by this weekend.. she goes under shelter on april 1st!
(http://aurora.thomasnet.com/Asset/a1276.jpg)
need to get the rack 100% done by this weekend.. she goes under shelter on april 1st!
(http://aurora.thomasnet.com/Asset/a1276.jpg)
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 12:52:54 AM
Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 12:52:54 AM
she's a bit more ford than chevy as of today :) .. all i was able to get done were the rack tabs and get it bolted up.. started making a make-shift temp steering shaft with ratchet universals (yaaaay ghetto) so i can move it around, because i had to order the large u-joints and a 3/4" male hiem for the steering shaft.. they won't be in until mid next week :(
don't know why i bolted the fenders on.. it just seemed like a good idea at the time lol
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don't know why i bolted the fenders on.. it just seemed like a good idea at the time lol
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 23, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 23, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
here's my temporary ghetto steering shaft.. it's mainly ghetto because i used ratchet swivels LOL i'm going to keep it like this, until the motor is in and i finish modifying the headers.. that way i don't screw up my new $70 (each) universals.. when said time comes, i'll actually remove the OEM shaft that sticks through the firewall and run my shaft all the way to the rack
the universals i ordered for the permanent shaft -
(http://hyperracing.com/Assets/Hyper_images/images/16-600-l.jpg)
my ghetto temp shaft with the hiem mounted to the frame (welded the nut to the frame, so the hiem is easily removable when it's time to pull it off to change shafts ;) )
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and my other project of the day.. get the crossmember cut.. even started plating it back up
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the universals i ordered for the permanent shaft -
(http://hyperracing.com/Assets/Hyper_images/images/16-600-l.jpg)
my ghetto temp shaft with the hiem mounted to the frame (welded the nut to the frame, so the hiem is easily removable when it's time to pull it off to change shafts ;) )
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and my other project of the day.. get the crossmember cut.. even started plating it back up
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 25, 2012, 01:21:38 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 25, 2012, 01:21:38 PM
hit a local swap meet today and scored some decent stuff for the truck.. didn't even break $35 ;)
decent headers.. $20.. these actually look like they'll fit, compared to the actual fox-swap headers i have
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15x10 wheels.. $5.. now i just need wider tires lol
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speedo, tach and oil pressure/fuel level gauges.. $10.. couldn't pass them up for the price
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and i bought a new welding helmet for $2.. that adds up to $37, but i found a $5 bill :p
decent headers.. $20.. these actually look like they'll fit, compared to the actual fox-swap headers i have
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15x10 wheels.. $5.. now i just need wider tires lol
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speedo, tach and oil pressure/fuel level gauges.. $10.. couldn't pass them up for the price
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and i bought a new welding helmet for $2.. that adds up to $37, but i found a $5 bill :p
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 25, 2012, 10:22:22 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 25, 2012, 10:22:22 PM
don't laugh too hard, i used my front sump pan (backwards) as a mock-up rear sump pan.. it's been cut and modified, but it gave me an idea of what i'm looking at.. so basically, i have to chop about an 1-1/2" off the top of the crossmember and plate it, move the rack down a smidge or 2 and i should be in good shape all around.. going to try doing so tomorrow, along with drilling/cutting the slots for the motor mount studs.. i'm going to cut little spacers out of steel and weld them to the top of the mounts, just to give myself a little extra peace of mind.. i'm figuring a 5/16" spacer should be sufficient, between the block's mounting posts and the mount itself, that way the mounts still lay flush against the frame, without any washers/spacers to gain a little extra height..
anyway, i'm doing all this with my 306, since the 408 is now on a stand at the shop, waiting for me to head down and start ripping it apart.. once i get the slots cut and the crossmember modified for height clearance, i'm going to put the heads back on with the 1-7/16" tubing sandwiched between the block/heads, so i can start fitting the headers and see what needs to be done.. i'm not going to make anything permanent, as the 1-7/16" tubing doesn't give the heads the exact height of where the 408's heads will end up.. so far, i don't think i'll have much to do, header wise
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anyway, i'm doing all this with my 306, since the 408 is now on a stand at the shop, waiting for me to head down and start ripping it apart.. once i get the slots cut and the crossmember modified for height clearance, i'm going to put the heads back on with the 1-7/16" tubing sandwiched between the block/heads, so i can start fitting the headers and see what needs to be done.. i'm not going to make anything permanent, as the 1-7/16" tubing doesn't give the heads the exact height of where the 408's heads will end up.. so far, i don't think i'll have much to do, header wise
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 27, 2012, 10:17:02 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 27, 2012, 10:17:02 PM
got the top side of the crossmember done.. i'll do the back side after i'm certain i don't need to trim anymore off.. i still have to move the rack down, but i'm going to do that with the permanent crossmember.. i'll take care of that after the 408 is in, that way i know everything will clear and i can make sure the steering won't bind.. other than that, i sat the 306 back in with the mounts and spacers in.. got all that situated and started messing with the passenger side header.. i only have to modify the #1 and #2 primaries to clear the stupid GM upper control arm setup, so right off the bat, i'm in better shape with these headers, than i would have been with the others.. so i slid 2 bolts in and spaced the head up with the 1-7/16 pipe again, but i flattened them a little to match the 9.2 deck height of the 408
my hiems for the tie rods came in today, but they were shipped to the shop, so i have to run and get them.. also mounted 1 of the hoosiers on 1 of the new 15x10's.. threw it on the truck and it just kept me motivated all day lol
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my hiems for the tie rods came in today, but they were shipped to the shop, so i have to run and get them.. also mounted 1 of the hoosiers on 1 of the new 15x10's.. threw it on the truck and it just kept me motivated all day lol
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/541773_10151443376280335_585700334_23779006_397643465_n.jpg)
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Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 29, 2012, 10:52:33 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 29, 2012, 10:52:33 PM
so far, everything i was told about this motor is true.. pretty pretty FRPP A351 1.6 roller rockers, correct cylinder bore to be a 408 (need to check stroke tomorrow), (what appears to be) TF pistons.. so far, all is well with this thing.. a little water in the cylinders and pan, but it doesn't seem as if it has really effected anything (yet).. the distributor is now garbage, as i had to beat the snot out of it to get it loose.. but at least it was just a stock junker and not an MSD or something of the sort..
only thing i'm not happy about, are the heads.. i was never informed as to what they were.. but alas.. stock.. i believe some p-heads may be in order, depending on what that'd set the compression ratio at.. if it's going to push it to 12:1, forget it lol premium is getting too expensive
only thing i'm not happy about, are the heads.. i was never informed as to what they were.. but alas.. stock.. i believe some p-heads may be in order, depending on what that'd set the compression ratio at.. if it's going to push it to 12:1, forget it lol premium is getting too expensive
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on March 29, 2012, 11:20:41 PM
Post by: Shadow on March 29, 2012, 11:20:41 PM
scratch that! they're GT-40 (non-p) heads! casting number F1ZE-AA
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: turbotrav on April 02, 2012, 05:23:08 PM
Post by: turbotrav on April 02, 2012, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: Shadow;385582
scratch that! they're GT-40 (non-p) heads! casting number F1ZE-AA
I thought GT40 351 heads had a F3 part number. Should have 3 bars on the front of the heads facing the radiator. If not, there are new E7 style truck heads.
Travis
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on April 02, 2012, 07:48:14 PM
Post by: Shadow on April 02, 2012, 07:48:14 PM
the GT40 lightening heads have more than 1 casting number, 3 if i remember right.. the 'newer style' truck E7's still had the humps in the exhaust ports.. plus, they weren't stamped with GT and they do have the 3 bars.. pics below should show them lol
so the motor's in, i re-angled the mounts, pass header is on and there's 1 slight clearance issue.. with the block.. everything else is PERFECT.. if i wanted to go the easy route, i could just dent the header or trim the piece of the block down, but i'll do it the hard/correct way, so it's all good and stuff.. (pic below of where it'shiznitting).. i also did a bit of 'test painting' on the 306 with the duplicolor paint shop 'deep blue'.. i've used the paint shop line of products before, but never straight out of the can without mixing to change the shade.. i really like it, so i'll be painting both motors with it, before they get their final drop into the frame rails.. read a few articles from a google search and apparently it holds up to the heat pretty well
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/522513_10151463349725335_585700334_23859988_1576425730_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/528192_10151463350315335_585700334_23859992_470981181_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/550070_10151463350950335_585700334_23859993_1956544983_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/548650_10151463352800335_585700334_23860005_2144219329_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/528973_10151463353355335_585700334_23860007_892374698_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/532704_10151462604970335_585700334_23857343_985073032_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/541867_10151461526720335_585700334_23851699_1932884623_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/523729_10151461485390335_585700334_23851526_199312968_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/306651_10151459637310335_585700334_23840381_1441586005_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/550152_10151454085910335_585700334_23815532_1018847375_n.jpg)
head close-ups
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/546156_10151463351185335_585700334_23859996_149497848_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/558035_10151463351915335_585700334_23859998_27294837_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/305982_10151463352240335_585700334_23860002_1875158227_n.jpg)
and.. i really need to find a funnel web for the 408.. this just looks mean and it'll compliment the rest of the motor well.. don't mind the carb, though.. it's just my py 650 holley off the 306.. i just sat it on there to determine where the carb and breather would actually sit
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/539540_10151463453565335_585700334_23860709_350821256_n.jpg)
so the motor's in, i re-angled the mounts, pass header is on and there's 1 slight clearance issue.. with the block.. everything else is PERFECT.. if i wanted to go the easy route, i could just dent the header or trim the piece of the block down, but i'll do it the hard/correct way, so it's all good and stuff.. (pic below of where it'shiznitting).. i also did a bit of 'test painting' on the 306 with the duplicolor paint shop 'deep blue'.. i've used the paint shop line of products before, but never straight out of the can without mixing to change the shade.. i really like it, so i'll be painting both motors with it, before they get their final drop into the frame rails.. read a few articles from a google search and apparently it holds up to the heat pretty well
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/522513_10151463349725335_585700334_23859988_1576425730_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/528192_10151463350315335_585700334_23859992_470981181_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/550070_10151463350950335_585700334_23859993_1956544983_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/548650_10151463352800335_585700334_23860005_2144219329_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/528973_10151463353355335_585700334_23860007_892374698_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/532704_10151462604970335_585700334_23857343_985073032_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/541867_10151461526720335_585700334_23851699_1932884623_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/523729_10151461485390335_585700334_23851526_199312968_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/306651_10151459637310335_585700334_23840381_1441586005_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/550152_10151454085910335_585700334_23815532_1018847375_n.jpg)
head close-ups
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/546156_10151463351185335_585700334_23859996_149497848_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/558035_10151463351915335_585700334_23859998_27294837_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/305982_10151463352240335_585700334_23860002_1875158227_n.jpg)
and.. i really need to find a funnel web for the 408.. this just looks mean and it'll compliment the rest of the motor well.. don't mind the carb, though.. it's just my py 650 holley off the 306.. i just sat it on there to determine where the carb and breather would actually sit
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/539540_10151463453565335_585700334_23860709_350821256_n.jpg)
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on April 03, 2012, 10:17:12 PM
Post by: Shadow on April 03, 2012, 10:17:12 PM
since parker fails and seems to have vanished AND never produced a 351w intake, i'm forced to look elsewhere.. well, procomp comes to the rescue.. nice 3500-7500rpm range, so with a little port cleanup, it should compliment the motor well
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBF-351W-Satin-Aluminum-Air-Gap-Intake-Manifold-3500-7500RPM-/380371723563?hash=item588febe52b&item=380371723563&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
now i'm on the hunt for a nice used, rebuildable demon core
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBF-351W-Satin-Aluminum-Air-Gap-Intake-Manifold-3500-7500RPM-/380371723563?hash=item588febe52b&item=380371723563&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
now i'm on the hunt for a nice used, rebuildable demon core
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: turbotrav on April 03, 2012, 11:34:58 PM
Post by: turbotrav on April 03, 2012, 11:34:58 PM
Man that is lots of work....good luck,
Travis
Travis
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Shadow on April 03, 2012, 11:47:46 PM
Post by: Shadow on April 03, 2012, 11:47:46 PM
almost too much.. lol and this is just for the motor.. i still have to build a tubular trans crossmember, narrow the rear frame clip, build a narrowed disk 8.8, decide on a trans, build said trans, body work, interior work, exhaust, weld up the aluminum fuel cell, etc etc.. there's still a buttload left to do
Title: you're going to be scratching your head at this 1..
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on April 11, 2012, 02:12:52 AM
Post by: Dougy_Fresh on April 11, 2012, 02:12:52 AM
how well would a fox mustang width 8.8 fit under an s10?