Looking for MTX for my 87'XR-7
Can I use M5OD tranny from Explorer 4.0 with my 302 Windsor?
Thanks
I don't think so.....
The shifter is too far forward, and the bellhousing is probably a different pattern.
M5OD is the stock tranny for T-bird SC 3.8
Isn't it?
Yeah pretty sure. I think you want a T-5
that would be great)
but can't find it(
http://www.car-part.com will be your friend ;)
can find on the net
but no one local... just MTX from 4.0
Shipping from car-part.com or ebay, etc will be a couple of KBucks
where are you located?
Kazakhstan - Midle Asia near with Afganistan, China)))
Oh yeah, that may be a bit harder to get American car parts. Trinom is from that end of the world he may be able to help you.
The 4.0 Explorer tranny will not bolt onto a 5.0. The 4.0 is a "Cologne" V6 engine with a different bell housing than the Windsor V8.
If you can't find a 5.0 T5 you might find a 2.3 T5 and installing a 5.0 bellhousing. Many people say they won't stand up to a 5.0, but lots of people say they will as long as you keep the engine "mild", and you're probably more likely to find a 2.3 in Asia or even Europe than you would a 5.0.
There is no problem with small light parts.
I'm using USPS Express usually.
But too expensive shipping for heavy parts like tranny, engines...
Yeah, I know that 4.0 is Cologne.
2.3 is a more rare than 5.0 here. Never see it alive)
OK. Will try to find MTX from 5.0 Explorer...
Yeah but the T-bird SC is on a completely different chassis.
5.0 Explorers did not have an available MTX. They were 5R55E automatics only. You could get the M5OD in the F150 behind the 5.0 and 4.9, but the gearing would be horrible for a car and I dunno if the shifter would be in the right place either.
2' shifter would look odd :mullet:
As I see - Stang's T5 is the only way for me...
Thanks everyone!
You can also go with custom bellhousings if you want to do alot of different tranny's.
I have found T5 from Mustang Fox
What parts I need to swap it?
Is it interchangeable with my AOD?
All the info you need is right here:
http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/t5_conversion.html
Ummmmmm...........You
CAN use the M5R2 out of an F-150 -- they bolted those straight up to the 5.0s and they were the SC trannys -- not the M5OD ----slightly different. You'd need a 164 tooth flywheel.
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=21944&highlight=m5r2
http://www.fordification.com/M5R2_5spd-swap.htm
http://www.cobrasc.com/faqs_frames.htm
Hope this helps ;)
Thunder Chicken
V8Demon
Thanks
you want a t5 not that mazda tranny...BELIEVE ME..Teh t5 is a perfect fit and the Mazda isnt...I also eat up those mazda trannys with my v6 tbird
The M5R2 was designed as a truck tranny. The M5OD is a much smaller box, and the shifter is completely different from the R2. The R2 wasn't designed for speed shifting, and is a very clunky shift anyway. I have one in my F-150, behind a 5.0, and it's done a beautiful job in that truck for 160000 miles (and counting). Any transmission can be destroyed behind any engine. It isn't the engine destroying the tranny, it's the driver. The curb weight of the T-Bird is nearly the same as my F-150 (standard cab, short bed), if not a little heavier. (Go figure) If you're running solid mounts, or poly mounts, and not the stock mounts, chances are, if you've got good bite on one burn-out, you're gonna turn a stock transmission into schrapnel. I've burned 'em a time or two in my truck, but, wheel hop is so bad in that thing, it'll rip the rear springs out before it hurts the M5R2. Don't ask me how I know.
I snapped two input shafts..The t5 is a bolt in in every way wheras the SC tranny is not. I cant see why anyone would whant that behemoth of a transmision in thier car
which tranny you mean "behemoth"?
T5 or SC (M6OD)?
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What do you say about T-45 with 302?
The SC transmission. Here is shaft #1
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35072&d=1226190772
there were 2 m5r2's the SC shifter is farth back then the truck the truck shifter will pop up in the middle of your dash
for the sc m5r2 you will need a flywheel from a 92 f150 302 and you need 3 shimms on the starter or you will eat the starter up ASK ME HOW I KNOW
I have no idea why you wouldnt want to use a t5