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Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on March 31, 2009, 02:18:16 PM
Ever heard of a car that the first maintenance stop was $2000? Me either, this is a bit ridiculous.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2009/03/2009-nissan-gt-r-bargain-supercar-gets-expensive.html (http://"http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2009/03/2009-nissan-gt-r-bargain-supercar-gets-expensive.html")
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: V8Demon on March 31, 2009, 02:27:32 PM
And transmissions that break after using the launch control feature.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 31, 2009, 02:28:06 PM
Yes and the automatic transmission is so gutless it cant handle using the Launch Control FACTORY FEATURE and it voids the warranty too.
 
Gahhbage!!! :rollin:
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on March 31, 2009, 02:32:48 PM
Quote from: ZondaC12;265069
Yes and the automatic transmission is so gutless it cant handle using the Launch Control FACTORY FEATURE and it voids the warranty too.
 
Gahhbage!!! :rollin:


Its an automated manual. I touched on it in one of my articles.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 31, 2009, 02:38:24 PM
:rollin: Wow he beat me to it
 
@ 86Xr7....yea whatever it is haha. Either way it still PHAYLES.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on March 31, 2009, 02:40:48 PM
Meh, its okay. The GTR is just a giant vehiclular fail.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: FloridaCougar on March 31, 2009, 03:03:58 PM
The average joe can't afford one of these. I think I'd rather buy an Evo and mod it anyway, alot cheaper that way too. Besides I'd have a hard time spending that much on a car even if I had plenty of cash. I refuse to believe that I couldn't buy a car and improve upon it, thus creating a better car, and still come out cheaper. $80k is alot of money.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: EricCoolCats on March 31, 2009, 03:04:01 PM
Lamborghinis and Ferraris (and some Porsches) have routine maintenance costs of around $5K to $25K, sometimes higher. The carbon ceramic brakes alone cost more than what most of us make in one year. Oil changes have been known to be $5K.

This really isn't new information. In fact, the GT-R is on the low end of the exotic car scale in that respect.

But the bottom line is, if you have the money for one of those cars, you'd better have the money to properly maintain them down the line...
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on March 31, 2009, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats;265080
Lamborghinis and Ferraris (and some Porsches) have routine maintenance costs of around $5K to $25K, sometimes higher. The carbon ceramic brakes alone cost more than what most of us make in one year. Oil changes have been known to be $5K.

This really isn't new information. In fact, the GT-R is on the low end of the exotic car scale in that respect.


Compare prices and then look at this again. This is no supercar. Its a high priced GT car. This is just ridiculous.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: EricCoolCats on March 31, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
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But the bottom line is, if you have the money for one of those cars, you'd better have the money to properly maintain them down the line...

Ummm...yeah. How about, reread the quote above. Doesn't matter what car it is, or what the price range is, or what label the marketing department slaps on the vehicle. This is all you need to know. If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on March 31, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
I agree but this is by no means a supercar. The price for the oil alone is stupid. What is in that stuff, the souls of African children?
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: oldraven on March 31, 2009, 04:11:54 PM
I think he's getting at the fact that those cars that have the $5000 oil changes typically base well above $100k. The GTR is a piece, though. And good luck getting one for anywhere within $25k of MSRP.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: Blackout on March 31, 2009, 04:36:37 PM
It may be a fail with the mechanicals, but I saw one in person today.....DEAD shagY.  The styling is spot on....and if they get the mechanicals and the outlandish price i check, its a neat car.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on March 31, 2009, 04:47:21 PM
Personally I don't really get it, why buy an expensive car like this when you can spend less and BUILD a better car? I guess I'm cheap or maybe I'm just that kind of guy but supercars and expensive GT cars are beyond me.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: RunninWild on March 31, 2009, 04:55:36 PM
The R34's or whatever looked cooler....

I'd rather have a '98 Skyline and mod that.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: V8Demon on March 31, 2009, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: 86XR7project;265104
Personally I don't really get it, why buy an expensive car like this when you can spend less and BUILD a better car? I guess I'm cheap or maybe I'm just that kind of guy but supercars and expensive GT cars are beyond me.

Simple.  Status for one reason.  Refinement for another.  If I build a LS2 powered last generation RX7 with say 500 HP and it can turn 1.0+ g on a skidpad while running comparable lap times to the GT-R it might be cheaper, but I doubt it will be dead quiet in traffic.  I also doubt the ride quality on uneven pavement would be as good.

I've spoken with quite a few exotic car owners.....Most of them could be bothered with maintenance of a vehicle.  It's beneath them.  Something for the help or hired hand to contend with.
Different mindset.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: ~AC on April 01, 2009, 12:10:06 AM
i heard a guy talking about getting a GTR, he said it was about $190,000.  thats pretty much 100,000 over MSRP.

Also, when you buy an exotic second hand, have a mechanic look it over before any money transactions.  they're KNOWN to not be maintained and ruined.  TESTEROSA.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: cougarcragar on April 01, 2009, 06:31:29 AM
I think I would rather have a new 370Z; it comes with a true manual and doesn't cost nearly as much.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on April 01, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: cougarcragar;265226
I think I would rather have a new 370Z; it comes with a true manual and doesn't cost nearly as much.


It is a true manual, just not a conventional "old school" manual.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: oldraven on April 01, 2009, 10:31:25 AM
The only difference I know of is the rev-matching feature, which is needed by pretty much everyone out there, myself included. I never have and likely never will bother doing this on my own.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on April 01, 2009, 11:59:58 AM
I'd rather buy a 2010 Mustang with the track pack and mod that. They are proven on the track and its a good old fashioned Ford pony car.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: Haystack on April 01, 2009, 09:35:33 PM
I'd drive one if someone gave it to me. I saw one today for the first time in real life. It looks pretty okay actually. In the pictures it looked really awkward to me.
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: Carl on April 02, 2009, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats;265085
Ummm...yeah. How about, reread the quote above. Doesn't matter what car it is, or what the price range is, or what label the marketing department slaps on the vehicle. This is all you need to know. If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.


Thats why we run with the big cats! :hick:

but to put things into perspective. When I went to the porshe dealership to look at that 3000GT VR4 we went over financing and the dude was kinda oblivious to the whole process. I asked him, how many times do people actually ask for financing at this dealership.. he said most of the time people just write checks.

I was like :punchballs:

So when the people who are actually buying these cars can write a check without a second though. I am sure $2000 is the least of their worries. Hell, they probably use that for toilet paper...
Title: Why not to buy a GTR
Post by: 86XR7project on April 02, 2009, 02:29:03 PM
I was just saying from MY standpoint (Cheap apparently) that is absolutely retarded prices for all these different fluids and work.