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Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: sum_weirdo on January 07, 2009, 03:07:34 PM
This is for my 2006 mustang but that forum isn't loading for me at the moment.  I got taken by surprise by the tire shortage this year, I managed to buy 2 Bridgestone Blizzaks for my car and mount them on the rear but I can NOT find anymore to go on the front wheels.  My Dad who only wants to see me safe is pushing me to install something besides summer tires on the front and he pointed out the Firestone Winterforce which is studdable.  Took some looking but I found them online.

Now the question is, is mixing studded tires with my Blizzaks a good idea for a RWD car and if so which should be in the front?  Hoping to get an answer so I can go ahead and order them.  Thanks.
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: dominator on January 07, 2009, 03:14:55 PM
They don't come studded so don't stud them.
We sell them at the cryco dealer i work for and haven't had any complaints as they come without studs so....just use them like that.
They don't need studs it's just optional.
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: sum_weirdo on January 07, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
I know I don't have to stud them but anything short of studded tires is pretty much a waste of my money.  The roads here in Calgary are really poorly kept in the winter, mid-grade snow tires are just slightly better than nothing at all.  I figure if I get the studs maybe I'll actually be able to climb hills when I need to.  Or stop when coming down one.  At first glance putting studs on the front would be better for braking but could that throw the car off balance during a stop?
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: shame302 on January 07, 2009, 05:37:12 PM
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but anything short of studded tires is pretty much a waste of my money
thats deffinetly not true.
our other car, an 03 alero really sucked bad in the snow with the tires it had on it, and they were new. i put snow/ice tires all around and it absolutely made me a believer in snow tires. the car is great in the snow and has yet to get stuck.
 
having different snow tires up front will at the very least be better than the gatorbacks or whatever are on the front and probably wouldnt be much different then the blizaks on the rear.
 
i would invest in a bladder for the trunk that can hold sand or whatever.
 
studs are okay, but here you cant use them as much of the year. i wouldnt bother studding tires.
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 07, 2009, 05:42:58 PM
If you must have studded tires put 'em on the back. Even with FWD vehicles the tires with the most traction should always be on the rear. If you have less grippy tires on the rear you could end up swapping ends when hitting the brakes on a slippery surface.
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: sum_weirdo on January 07, 2009, 06:56:13 PM
The front of the car still has the Pirelli summer tires it came with stock.  Until I got the Blizzaks a few weeks ago I was getting stuck left and right, that doesn't happen now but on the nastier days you can hit the brakes and keep sliding on and on and on, it's unreal. 

Guess if I get studs they'll go in the rear.  Thanks.
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: rancheronut on January 07, 2009, 08:16:44 PM
i only use the studed snow on my cars/ trunks  for the last20 yrs and i live in montana but the wife was talk into the blizzak 50 tires on her car couple yrs ago. (wife's never listen to there hubby's)
 what i have found out is both tires work good on ice/snowpack roads. but i like the studs better because if you get stuck or coming up to a stop light and the road is nothing but ice on the road. the studed tires will dig into the ice ,where the blizzak will not. i have the mark's in my concrect drive way to prove it.

if you have  FWD vehicles=
  then you have to put  4snow tires all the way around, no if or buts!!!!!.
 if you have RWD vehicle=
you can get by with 2 on the rear but thats it you only get by and my life is worth all four be cause you want to stop more that you want to go forwards.

 in your case put the studed tires on rear and the blizzak on the front. then put about 100lbs of weight(sandbags/rock salt) in the trunk.

but if it was me! get 4 studed tires and sell the 2 blizzak because i still have you canada folk's calling looking for snow tires. so they should be eazy to resell.
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: 87crzypssy on February 01, 2009, 11:09:08 PM
i really dont know what to think of everyones opinion on this one, ive made it all winter in my road warrior aka crown vic with only two new tires on the front and the rears are ready to be burnt for one last time. granted i cannot take off in a hurry i sure as hell could turn and brake, and as for swapping ends you just gotta be gentle with the inputs. the 100% traction theory is great. 50% of stop or go only leaves you with 50% traction to turn on. And as for the bladder, ive never liked the idea of adding weight to aid traction, you eventually need to stop that weight.
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: daboss351 on February 01, 2009, 11:30:55 PM
my bridgestones suck in the snow
but down shifting, and shoving it into reverse in a full slid, and having a heavy right foot has made it so ive never been towed.
Title: Need a quick answer about studded snow tires
Post by: Haystack on February 02, 2009, 12:05:07 AM
shoving it into reverse is the stupidest thing I could possibly imagine someone doing. If you really don't care about your car, or the lives of people around you then go ahead. I've driven bald tires in the snow and never been towed. But I have had to dig myself out once or twice.

It really isn't that hard. You just give yourself more time to brake and expect the unexpected. If someone is sitting right infront of you with there signal on, expect them to turn out infront of you, and plan accordingly. Ive actually had to run red lights because of assholes that can't figure out its slick. About 2 years ago I was sitting stopped at a red light, looked in my rear veiw mirror, and some asshole spun out trying to stop for a red light, and I had to spin my tires and get the car sideways and just barely got out of his way before watching him hit a telephone pole.

everyonce in a while, having a heavy right foot foot can get you out of trouble, but just wait till you learn to depend on it and your car dies.