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Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: bigbada1 on November 21, 2008, 10:56:06 AM
Need to vent pulled aod put used one in everything hooked up went to bump starter to get to next torque converter bolt everything locked up I didn't line up the torque converter drain plug with the flywheel have to pull the trany back out stupid stupid ford and there torque converters with the studs why couldn't they be as smart as gm and put a bolt through the flywheel into the converter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: Turbo 88 on November 21, 2008, 12:14:31 PM
sucks. I hate doing things more than once
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: ZondaC12 on November 21, 2008, 05:38:51 PM
Bahhhh that bites man. Hey look at the bright side though, at least its a good-ol RWD LONGITUDINAL tranny, not a stupid front drive transverse engine-and-tranny combo. Man I would NOT wanna have to do that on a fwd car.
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: gumby on November 21, 2008, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: bigbada1;244148
I didn't line up the torque converter drain plug with the flywheel have to pull the trany back out stupid stupid ford and there torque converters with the studs why couldn't they be as smart as gm and put a bolt through the flywheel into the converter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

while your post was very difficult to read and understand, i gathered that you are blaming a ford design for the extra work incurred from your mistake. how exactly does user error relate to the validity of fords design?
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: V8Demon on November 21, 2008, 07:15:27 PM
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I didn't line up the torque converter drain plug with the flywheel have to pull the trany back out stupid stupid ford and there torque converters


Funny.  I've NEVER had to "bump the starter" on ANY converter I've done.....
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: 5.0 tbird on November 21, 2008, 09:55:48 PM
Yeah me either, and I'm having trouble seeing how the torque converter drain plug has any affect on the motor from turning over.
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: whitedevil666 on November 22, 2008, 01:31:55 PM
I turn the engine over with a wrench to do that. Jesus bumpin' the starter sounds scary as ... You weren't under the car when you did it were you??
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 22, 2008, 04:41:57 PM
Problem is GMs don't have a drain plug(sucks)... GM guy works on Ford, fornicatess up...
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: ZondaC12 on November 22, 2008, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;244200
Funny. I've NEVER had to "bump the starter" on ANY converter I've done.....

Why dont you have to? Im *fairly* certain my buddy and I did when we pulled my tranny and re-assembled everything. How could you get around that??? Id like to know lol
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: 88 Blackbird 5.0 on November 22, 2008, 07:09:44 PM
Quote from: ZondaC12;244333
Why dont you have to? Im *fairly* certain my buddy and I did when we pulled my tranny and re-assembled everything. How could you get around that??? Id like to know lol


Take it from someone who has replaced more flex plates than most ever will.  Use the crank bolt to rotate the engine Paul.  That's the best way to do it.  I'll bet you I've changed over 150 flex plates at work (I was a fleet mechanic for America West Airlines).  I got so good at doing them, that I could do a job from start to finish in 40 minutes.  I was so sick of doing flex plates, that I made a little game out of it, to see how good I could get at replacing them.
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: ZondaC12 on November 22, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
True I guess you could do that LOL. Not like my breaker bar and my own strength can't turn the engine over, I have done that. Just didn't think of it. Now that you mention that...that might have been what sean and I did hahaha. I forget so much ...it is truly embarassing at times....:rolleyes: :o no drugs don't drink or anything...but ya cant fix stupid I guess...
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Post by: mywifeskitty on November 22, 2008, 11:11:39 PM
step 1 of almost any car repair............  #1.  disconnect negative terminal from battery.........

i don't think "bumping" the starter is in the official transmission swap manual :)

p.s. a socket and 1/2 in drive on the crank bolt is a winner
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: 88 Blackbird 5.0 on November 22, 2008, 11:43:34 PM
If you want to do yourself a favor, make a pair of bellhousing guide studs.  I keep a set in my toolbox that I made a long time ago for installing C6's, C4's, FMX's and AOD's. 

To make these guide studs, cut the heads off two 3/8" diameter bolts that are 2" long.  After you've cut the heads off, use a high speed cutter (whizzer) to cut a slot into each of the studs on the ends where the heads used to be.  The slots will allow you to use a screwdriver to remove the studs when the tranny has been slid tight up against the block.

Another piece of advice is to avoid threading a stud into the bottom passenger side bellhousing bolt hole on the engine.  If you thread a stud into that hole, you can't install the tranny dipstick tube until the stud has been removed.  On both sides, use the middle holes. 

Once you've used those studs to install your tranny, you'll be ready to kick yourself for not having done it sooner. 

The hardest part about installing a tranny as everyone knows, is mating the tranny to the block.  From now on, it'll be a piece of cake for you.

For you turbo 4 cylinder guys, with your A4LD trannys; use 5/16" diameter by 1 1/2" long bolts to make your guide studs.
Title: uhhHHHHH AOD
Post by: jcassity on November 23, 2008, 01:23:39 AM
Quote from: bigbada1;244148
Need to vent pulled aod put used one in everything hooked up went to bump starter to get to next torque converter bolt everything locked up I didn't line up the torque converter drain plug with the flywheel have to pull the trany back out stupid stupid ford and there torque converters with the studs why couldn't they be as smart as gm and put a bolt through the flywheel into the converter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm born and raised in kentucky but now live in west virigina.  You MO boys sure make our english seem great:D

Honestly man, sounds like you started and did everything wrong.  Learn the hard way they say;)

read up on the advice here a couple times, get your head around it and then its redo time.

This thread should be a sticky of what not to do,, good luck though.