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Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: booksix on September 05, 2008, 08:58:47 PM
Is the x-brace behind the rear seat structural or just there to keep the passengers from tipping backward into the trunk?
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: daminc on September 05, 2008, 09:03:52 PM
I'm afraid to ask why
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: booksix on September 05, 2008, 09:09:01 PM
LOL, don't!!  you know why and you know you can't tell!!  :D
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: daminc on September 05, 2008, 09:27:24 PM
I really think it's to hold up the rear window/trunk area myself, and to minimize body twisting to a certain point.
I really haven't messed with mine yet
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: booksix on September 05, 2008, 10:07:52 PM
Ok, so if I was to remove it, I'd want to replace it with some kind of outlining tubular brace?
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: daminc on September 05, 2008, 10:17:58 PM
Yep
I would use 1x1 tubing, unless you need heavy duty bracing for your
project
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: daminc on September 05, 2008, 10:26:25 PM
You might want to try it without any to start.
new cars don't have the x brace, but I'm not sure if they're supported the same as our cars structurally.
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: V8Demon on September 05, 2008, 10:32:24 PM
Remember mid 80's cars from GM like the Monte Carlo and Buick Regal and the Grand National?  Thay had the same type setup and those were structural.

In fact, the GNX model Grand Nationals had beefed up versions of those bars.  Leave 'em in or replace with something stronger.  Don't leave them out!
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: daminc on September 05, 2008, 10:43:56 PM
Rear wheel drive thats why.
Most new cars are front drive.

V8's right, don't leave them out.
the more power at the rear, the more bracing you should have, shock to shock and t-box areas
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: booksix on September 05, 2008, 10:45:21 PM
yeah, I'd hate to get a sagging rear deck.  I'm going to look into a tight fitting aluminum rectangle made of 1x1 tubing and bolted in...  If that's a no go I'll do steel and weld it.
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: daminc on September 05, 2008, 10:54:57 PM
I would go with the steel 1x1 or even 1x2 the flat way
you would need a big gobbin aluminum frame to do any good.
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: booksix on September 05, 2008, 10:59:09 PM
ok, I'll go with 1x1  :D
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: MasterBlaster on September 08, 2008, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: booksix;235169
yeah, I'd hate to get a sagging rear deck.
Watch out for exploding rear windows if you get too much body flex afterwards. Looks pretty structural to me...
.
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: Blown306Cougar on September 09, 2008, 04:02:26 AM
no sagging here;)
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: daminc on September 09, 2008, 08:31:54 AM
Well, I'll stick to my original comment.
It does some support, but I would still put some tubing in there as a replacement, especially if you have a lot of power hitting the rear end. if your just cruising around, I don't think you'll notice it missing

As for Brett's project, he would need the bracing there for a couple reasons. ;)
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: jcassity on September 09, 2008, 11:17:35 AM
ok,, now what to do with the gas tank?
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: daminc on September 09, 2008, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: jcassity;235565
ok,, now what to do with the gas tank?


Do you think it would be a problem?
Title: Rear seat x-brace removal?
Post by: jcassity on September 09, 2008, 10:31:48 PM
like many others here,, including yourself, nothing is a problem to me but a challenge.

If the RWD is the topic,, i can imagine a couple different places the tank could go.