I know I said I would post pics of my house a long time ago.
So I figure, this would be a good start. As it's a start of a new and old project at the same time.
I started remodeling our kitchen 2 years ago, and never finished because of other projects in the house needing more attention.
This week I had some time and money to finish, or at least start the finishing.
Here's a quick view of the kitchen as it is right now. (don't look at the messy parts)
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As you can see, there's no doors on the cabinets.
Here's a little background on the kitchen job.
The kitchen you see right now was never this size. I relocated a laundry room, powder room and basp00get stairs, that were in this area of the house. the original kitchen was about 10x10 with an island. Yep, your trying to picture that I bet. Lets just say, you had to leave to let someone in.
So I told my wife that I would build her the kitchen of her dreams. It actually connects to an open conservatory that I built for her too, But thats another story.
I rebuilt, rewired, replumbed and installed hydronic radiant heating under all the ceramic tile.
I built all the cabinets and trim. built all the interior doors and installed all new window ad exterior doors. actually put insulation in the walls (in this century) and re-drywalled everything.
So now I'm going to take you step by step through the rest of the job.
First we need some lumber. (this isn't the entire amount I need)
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Then we rip it into door rail size
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Then we take it on this..
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and make this
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Then we start cutting them the correct door sizes (this is just some of them)
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then we take the door rails and do this to each end
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Put some glue in there and pin them (don't need clamps this way)
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Then I start putting them together. (these will have glass)
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then we cut the panels for the regular doors
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I then do this to the door panels
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then I take some rails that I double edge cut
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put it on this
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and do this to some ends (these will be center rails)
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then put them together
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And here we are after 2 days of work... (again, these are just a few) More to follow..............
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you are quite the craftsman.................very nice work.
My wife would have thrown me out of the house ,if I would have left her kitchen unfinished for 2 years................lol.
If you only saw the rest of the house that I did in that time, you would both would have agreed with the choice. I'll post some of those too.
Wow.I think I'll stick to having Lowe's come install my house stuff.I'll stick to working on my Bird.
Man, that makes my recent completetion of a crown-moudling/paint project, or built-in bookshelf look like child's play.
Having the proper tools and the room to use them is very helpful though.
Interested to see how the project progresses.
They have to hire people like me, and pay them.
Home Depot offered me a job as an installer.
$400 a week. I laughed at them.
Yes, the right tool is the key in doing anything.
Able to afford them is another story
I think I posted this pic once before.
I built everything , even the bay window
Still working on doors this year for that too.
This is one of those projects I did after building the kitchen cabinets, in those 2 years
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Hey, Jerry are those all the pics you have sent us? ;)
Looks like it cuts into cat time!Oh yeh, do you eat off the floor I seen the bowls there.
Yes Dan, I have sent those pics out before
And don't you worry about Cat time, This is my regular work schedule.
Cat time is on the weekend.
Yes we eat on the floor. we couldn't afford plates after all the remodeling. plus we don't have to worry about dropping anything that way. Drinking is a pain though. LOL
Today was finishing up gluing and sanding. after the sanding, the edges were moulded.
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Tomorrow, more sanding and getting ready for the finish.
all together I made 53 door and drawer fronts.
I still have another batch of about 40 to do to finish.
Man, is there anything you can't do?
He never learned how to love.
Sure you can.Hey do you do mail order? I give you the size you make doors?
Doors huh,
Depends on size and quantity. and, what do you have to trade for my car?
I probably can build a motor, just never have done it.
I have replaced lifters and timing chains, and put a shift kit in a transmissions. not to mention all the normal stuff that wears out after 20 years or so.
But I've never built a motor.
Today I routed out the backs of the glass doors, so glass can be held in with clips.
and I also sanded the doors again and filled any defects in the wood.
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It's tough to get a good shot of it
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I cleaned up the shop today and tomorrow I'll be ready to put the color coat on. and then the clear
Norm Abram would be proud!
Norm is the man.
If you look at his router table. thats where I got the idea for mine.
I just have some extras.
I've got a trivia question.
What year cougar color is on the guitar hanging on the wall?. (2nd from left)
I need to touch up the dings on the bottom edge, but lost the can with the year and color. I'm thinking 91?
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I have several myself. But I believe the early 90's maroon is right.
My guitars just keep the dings, lol
Looking good. I'm hoping to buy a house sometime soon to get away from the apartment thing. Then I can play.
Well . I jump on here see my name and that it's you then expect some pic's and see that you used Photobucket, My work blocks photobucket.
No worries, I get off in 45 min, looking forward to checking these out soon as I get home.
So today I got to try out my new gun.
All I can say is "Holy "
worth every penny.
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here's the secret to finishing. Don't tell anyone
the way to make a perfect color finish is to dye the wood, not stain it.
I use alcohol and tint dye. Mix it together to the color you like and put it on the wood. I spray it because this combo will be dry in about 3 min.
The alcohol wont raise the grain either.
most guitar companies use this method to stain the wood a color and still highlight the grain. Gibson Les Paul guitars come to mind first
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Here's a test piece
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this is my base color. another color will go on top of this one.
Got the base color on in about 2 hrs.
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Now for the next color.
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you can see the diff. in color here
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The reason for the 2 colors is:
the first color stains all the wood an even tone.
the next color red will grab the grain and highlight it
after everything is dry. I put a waterborne clear coat on.
here you can see how the red grabs the grain of the wood
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Here they are all ready to be sanded down and cleared again.
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Cabinet doors,
seems simple enough.
Jerry, those look great. My wife refused me to build our house (finished last Fall....by us as the contractor bailed), and when it came to cabinets, she wanted cherry, with brushed nickel hardware, and a dark brown speckle countertop with light brown specks. We got the opposite color countertop, and he bought "in-stock" Menards cabinets unfinished white oak, with no hardware. He used minwax to try to dye them the dark cherry color. Didn't turn out so hot. Your method would have done the trick. I don't dare remind my wife that things would have been different had I done the general contracting. Such are the lessons in life.
Amazing!
And I'll be getting a chance to try some of this out this winter. I still need doors for the two crawl spaces in the house. We just stuck a piece of rock in there and trimmed around it for now in order to get the OK to move in. I'm doing similar right now with the doors for my shed (practice before the house) and A buddy aw work suggested I use the biscuit jointer to join the corners. He described it but this is the first time I have seen one.
What's the Lumber your using there? By color it looks like Pine must be a pretty good grade as I don't see one knot in it anyplace.
Gorilla gluing together I see... I was planning to use Liquid nails.. the gorilla work better?
Die not stain.. I never heard of such a thing... can this stuff be picked up at Home Depot or Lowes? And once sprayed.. do you rub it off at all like you do stain or just spray and leave it?
Two colors... just a lighter and a darker, or does it matter? what colors did you use here?
I have a router with a cheesy sheet metal table that came with it.. I would like to see some more pic's of yours if you get the chance.. might be a good winter project before I start on the doors for those crawl spaces.
Thanks Jerry.. that's great work!
Wow that's great. I really like the color your setteled on.
Wanna redo my kitchen cabnets? They are from when the house was built in 1956 :hick:
I'm actually using Poplar and Birch plywood. That's the reason for the dye. It can be dyed to look like cherry at a fraction of the cost (with a lot of practice). stain would make the 2 diff woods take differently, and the color wouldn't match each other. dye will always make any wood the same color.
You can get the dye at veneersupplies.com (http://"veneersupplies.com")
Thats the first time I've used that brand glue. I like it a lot. the regular stuff works great to, but you have to wet the ends before gluing it.
The wood, I buy from a lumber Co. they will always get higher quality lumber then Home Depot or Lowes. They buy the stuff that the lumber co. rejects. that's why their prices are always cheaper.
The dye has to be sprayed or brushed very quickly because it dries within seconds in alcohol. You can use water with the dye, but it raises the grain badly. There's nothing to wipe off. It also takes a lot of practice to use the dye, and mix it to the right color to use. I used reddish brown and red mahogany. but you can use any combo or single colors to make your custom color.
I'll get some pics of my router table. Made the big one for about $40 plus the $200 variable speed 1/2" router. The cabinet cutters were also about $200+ for the set.
I'll post some more pics as i'm working on them.
Next is the glaze over the finish. Yes, it gets more complicated. LOL
Door update....
After working the last couple weekends. And not on my car, :mad:
I finished the first batch of cabinet doors today.
Here's cutting in the hinges.
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I use so many in a year, I always buy in bulk.
Ebay, less then $1 a piece
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Here's some pics of the kitchen now.
I need to get the glass and finish all the lowers and trim
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This is one of those build as you go projects.
There's always something that changes before were done.
those are the same hinges as my computer desk. I'm looking at them as I read this, lol.
Fantastic work, must be a feeling of great satisfaction to walk into your house and think "yeah I built that". Of course your probably like me and then think " I still need to finish those......". Awesome craftsmanship :bowdown:
Hey Jerry Started on my crawl space doors this week and have came back to go over some of what I have learned here whitch led to some questions. How did the Gorilla glue work out? I have some I could use, as well as some liquid nails if you have noticed any problems with the gorilla. in post #24 you say [/SIZE][/FONT]
What do you sand with at this point? Seem that 120g or courser would scratch into the dye, so I'm thinking steel wool. Can you elaborate on this a bit. And I'm assuming your talking a very lite had sanding. Still looking for a local place to buy the dye, Home Depot and Lowes don't list it on there web site, and I havent the forsite to have ordered it in advance. One of those crawl spaces was reserved for the christmas decorations that were in the garage, now that there down I was the crawl space useable by jan 1 so when the decorations come down they can go there instead of back in the garage. (so I'm on a deadline) Jim
The only complaint on the white glue is, It doesn't dye dark very well.
I prefer the regular foaming glue that dries dark. It makes it less noticable.
I use either 220 garnet paper or 0000 steel wool. the wool is a little more forgiving on the edges. and it just takes the fuzz of the finish to make it smooth.
If you don't get the dye on the web. See if there's a Rockler woodworking store near you. I just bought some there last week for a project. or perhaps a paint place like Sherwin Williams might have dye also.
Letting my impatient side show through I went ahead and moved on this and the first of two doors is done. Nowhere near the quality of yours but I’m extremely pleased with it.
I used Cedar, For the frame I used some 1x3 with oval edges, not sure what it was intended for but it came from the Decking area in Home Depot and was under $4. For a 8ft. It took most of two of them.
For the panels I used some tongue and groove cedar flooring strips they had that was about 3 x 3/16 x 8ft they came in a package of 6 for $17 and it took 3 of them for this first door.
I slotted the frame’s with the table saw, running multiple passes shifting the fence on the saw over a bit each time until I had it wide enough for the panels. One of these days I’ll invest in a dado blade set.
I used the Gorilla Glue, and should have read the instructions about the whole foaming thing, but figured it out when the stuff kept oozing out the cracks, I went back and wiped it off every 15 min or so for the first hour and I do have some spots where the stain didn’t adhere to it as well as the rest but it’s hardly noticeable unless you’re looking for it (and I am my biggest critic)
I used the 0000 Steel wool also, That’s what we have been using so that’s what I had, just wanted to know if you used something else.
I took two of your suggestions and used them.
First was the Biscuit Joint’s, I had never even heard of those before, and now I own me a Ryobi Biscuit Jointer
http://woodworking.about.com/od/recommendations/gr/RyobiJM82Joiner.htm (http://"http://woodworking.about.com/od/recommendations/gr/RyobiJM82Joiner.htm")
Was about $100 at Home Depot and I know Ryobi isn’t the best quality but the next best they had was $219 and I just don’t need enough doors to justify the added cost (got a house payment now, gotta live like poor folk) I used #20 biscuits and did not take your advise on the jig you built (keep in mind the advise I mention that I didn’t take is not because I think I knew better, but because I’m lazy, impatient, or have some other character defect showing through. I’m mentioning them to help you or others reading your thread to know what mistakes I made) instead I seen how the instructions with the Jointer showed to set the two corners together then draw a line @ 45 degree and line the jointer up on this line.
Joint Problems:
My slot for the biscuit was to near the center of the frame, The tip of the biscuit extended a bit into the slot I cut for the panels. I had enough clearance on the panels so was not a big deal, I’ll be able to do this better next time. I don’t think the jig would have helped me on this as I would have just ended up more precisely in the wrong spot.
Where you put brads in the back to hold the joint so you didn’t have to clamp I (don’t have a brad gun for my air compressor) used some steel L angle brackets. I should have bought longer bars for my bar clamps, I have gaps in the corners between each piece of the framework. I still don’t understand HOW those brads you used held the corners together tight, but I’m pretty sure the clamps would have done the trick.
As mentioned above I went ahead and used stain.
The highlight (pun intended) of the project was the use of two colors as you suggested. I had always figured that a dark stain would just cover a lighter. But FAR from the case. I bought two can’s , Colonial Oak (lighter) and a Mahogany (darker). I used each on a test piece and didn’t like either (as expected) the light was TOO light and the Darker was TOO dark. Neither of them looked like they did on the can, never does. But then I had a third test piece that I did one end in the light and the other in the dark. On this test piece I waited for it to dry then went over the light side with the dark stain and OMG there it was, JUST what I was looking for, the grain about glowed. I didn’t even bother doing the dark side over with the light stain. THIS was what I wanted. (pics later)
I also followed what you did, staining after it was all put together, normally I would have stained all the pieces first then assembled then varnished. Not sure of your reasoning in assembling first but I had issues getting the stain into the corners and grooves (I also didn’t spray, I wiped), not to mention I think the areas where the glue oozed out would have came out a bit better if the stain had been there first. Then I would have just needed to get the varnish to stick (didn’t seem to be a problem)
Overall I’m extremely pleased with the results. Like most of my home projects if I was paying somebody to do it I would expect perfection so I would reject them, But for doing it myself, this is one of the nicest job’s I have ever done. I’ll never use a single color of stain again, that is just TOO friggin awesome!
Here's a shot of a test piece, showing the dark on the right light on the left, and mixed in the center.
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Close up of the grain definition,
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Installed, still a little trim work to do
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Very nice guys.... I'll try to remember to get a few pictures of the grandfather clock my father -in-law made... completely out of wood, including the gears and hinges. the only thing not wood on it is the weights, oh and the ivory numbers and hands he carved.
I believe the color of the guitar is the 20th anny maroon right?
That's a delayed response. LOL
The maroon is also metallic and was newer then 87.
I don't know if the 20ths are metallic
I have to tell you that it's a great job for your first time.
You tend to learn what not to do and better ways of doing things after the job is done. I myself still learn and improve every time I make another set of doors. the next doors you make, you'll see an improvement and a savings in time.
Good job, I had some stuff going on during the holidays and forgot to get back to this thread.
I did manage to finish the kitchen for my wife yesterday. Doors, glass, handles, trim, ceiling, and crown moulding are all finished.
here's some pics.
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and as an extra bonus
the kitchen I made for my mom
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Wow nice!! can you come and do our kitchens? We have 3 in this house and they could all use an overhaul :D
You do great work Looks better than the stuff you can buy...
where do you fit 3 kitchens in your house?
Thanks man, I appreciate the compliment.
I'm guessing basp00get is the 3rd?
It didn't look big enough for 3