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Technical => Electrical Tech => Topic started by: raser13 on May 23, 2007, 05:32:55 PM

Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on May 23, 2007, 05:32:55 PM
hey bondo cougar, you've helped me somuch in the past i was hopping you might be able to work some magic angain for me. first off the folling question i know portains to a mn-12 cluster but bondocougar figured out the fox one so i figured he may know this one.so, bondocougar i have an mn-12 guage cluster that i've sucessfull installed in an '84 crown victoria (http://www.myrtsweb.com/roger/car 1.JPG)and the guys at http://www.grandmarq.net and i were wondering if there was a mod to make the mn-12 full digi dash to read over 85 m.p.h. or if it already did that? we would apreciate any info. thanks:america:
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on May 24, 2007, 07:16:14 PM
alright does anyone know the info thanks.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: jcassity on May 27, 2007, 12:18:45 PM
did you open up the speedo itself ?  Perhaps the w2 jumper wire is still the way to go.  Thats what i would look for first off.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: bhazard on May 27, 2007, 01:15:29 PM
Wow, is that a direct install or do you have to do a lot of modding?
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on May 28, 2007, 02:49:56 PM
actually not much modding, more rewiring and sensor swap just like converting a anolog '87 to a digital '87.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: CougarSE on May 28, 2007, 03:33:29 PM
what did you do with the buttons that would have been hooked up to that cluster?
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on May 29, 2007, 05:57:12 PM
i've used some other buttons and installed them on a plastic plate where the ash tray used to be, since i don't smoke this was nothing to give up. sorry no pics.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on May 31, 2007, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: jcassity;150083
did you open up the speedo itself ?  Perhaps the w2 jumper wire is still the way to go.  Thats what i would look for first off.


no such luck no w-2 to jumper!
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: jcassity on June 01, 2007, 11:27:49 PM
im curious,, there must be some proviions on the laminate for jumpers.
btw,, that is very impressive indeed.  You must be real good with wiring and all.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on June 03, 2007, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: jcassity;151244
im curious,, there must be some proviions on the laminate for jumpers.
btw,, that is very impressive indeed.  You must be real good with wiring and all.


there are provisions just like the ones on the foxstyle, i just don't want to just start adding jumpers to the thing and fry it. and as for the wiring it's not all that hard. the major wiring was to add the tach wire,the fuel flow wire,and the speed signal taht the car did'nt have alredy. everything else was just a clip and solier  together. not much different than changing a fox with the half anolog cluster to the full digital one,like the one i did with my cougar that you guys were so great at helping with.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: jcassity on June 04, 2007, 12:28:25 AM
well, the kinda stuff your doing makes you an asset to the site.  Some of us could swing that stuff but being able to do it and explain it is equally important.

great work anyway, :cheers:
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on June 05, 2007, 12:43:37 PM
i'm working on a write up for the crown vic site i'm on. when i get done i'll post a copy over here for you guys.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: bondocougar on June 09, 2007, 12:36:38 PM
Looks like a nice job!  Sorry for the late reply, been working all hours.

Sorry I don't know much about that cluster.  The only way to figure it out would be to spend some time with one on my bench.  And with my luck lately, there is always a chance damage could happen as I'm probing around.

So I'd be happy to look at one, but only if its a junker that is operational to do tests, but won't be missed if something goes wrong.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on June 14, 2007, 10:13:34 PM
as promised here's the linkey to the write up:

http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?t=16846

and as for bondocougar i'm working on finding one at the bone yard to send you. or could you tell me how to simulate speed so i could test  one here so i would'nt have to send you one? thanks for all your help with these digital car questions
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: raser13 on June 14, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
just f.y.i. these clusters could be modded to wor in the fox cougars the exact same way. you would just have to substitute the vic diagram with one for the cougar found on coolcats.

http://www.coolcats.net/tech/general/clusters.html
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: bondocougar on June 16, 2007, 10:55:44 AM
Easiest way is to get the vehicle speed sensor off the transmission and hack it to spin it with a drill.  Hook it up to the cluster per the diagrams.  Alternately, you could use a pulse generator, available off eBay, or you could make one yourself with a 555 timer IC.
Title: calling bondocougar need some digi info!!!PLEASE!!!
Post by: 88XR7 on June 25, 2007, 12:14:19 AM
Those speedos DO read over 85 mph, I had a friends Crown Vic up to 99, but I can't remember if it read 3-digits or not, I do remember it saying 99 though.