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Body/Appearance/Interior / cougar front end on a bird
Heh I learned that lesson a few years ago when I sold a pair of Tbird headlight buckets to a dude with a 4 eye Cougar on craigslist. When we met up I held them up next to his car and had an oh shiznit moment. He ended up buying them anyway though.
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Lounge / Anyone Tried PlastiDip?
Quote from: atroxr7;384789
wow someone hit the hot button on this while I was at work.  Opinions here, I love rat rods, not because rust looks good, but because they do some really crazy mods to the structure of the car without giving a  what anyone else thinks, then stop the project before it gets to a point where people are judging the quality of the paint job and so on.  Lets be honest here, with really nice paint jobs running up near $5000 or better, its simply not a game that everyone can play.  Im not the biggest fan of flat black but satin black on a car with big bold shagy curves really does it for me.  Im also the kind of guy that hates chrome in most cases.  Id rather see satin black with red powder coated trim over gloss black and and chrome ANY DAY.  To each there own tho.  But man, some of you have been chugging haterade.  Seriously, its ridiculous to to sit there and pretend you know why people wanna mod cars the way they do.  And everyone changes their tastes over time.  Im sure someone on here can dissect everything I just said and explain why Im wrong and you're right, but whats the point... its plastidip, its cheap, and it comes back off pain free.  Oh and my buddy here just used it today to blackout his emblems... looked good to me.

Yes peoples tastes do change over time, no doubt about that. What a coincidence though that a group of people would collectively change their tastes to the same thing in the same given time at the height of its popularity... hmm I think there's a 3 letter word for that...

And nobody's right or wrong, that's the beauty of opinions.  I'm of the opinion that factory faded shiznit brown looks better than rattlecan flat black on any given car. Disagree? Well looks like you chugged some of that haterade too.

And I don't pretend to know why people mod the cars the way they do, I use deductive reasoning and it pretty much automatically paints a picture. Here's my current observations:

-Some people are car enthusiasts; they were into cars when they were little kids; they were into cars in their teens and they were into cars as adults. They basically think about cars all day long and drone on and on about cars to friends/family whenever the opportunity arises. They try do anything they can do to their own car, in whatever style they want, no matter how expensive(money or time) or physically involved it is, just for the fun of it.

-Some people are faux car enthusiasts; Here their enthusiasm starts with their drivers license; grows when they see popularity afoot when they have a certain car or car components; then mindlessly follow the work of others in the cheapest/least involved way as possible so as to keep their little car hobby from taking up too much of their precious time. That's where plastidip seems to come in for most.



Having said all that, note that I like "rat rods" too. IF they're indeed built by their owners, IF they're driven all the time, and IF the rusty/bare metal finish isn't some professionally done fake rust treatment like oh so many of them actually are. Problem is, in my opinion, rat rodding doesn't transcend post-war car designs. The ability to run without fenders and running boards gives them a skeleton like character that makes them cool. That doesn't work quite as well on full bodied, especially aero-jellybean bodystyles nearly as well, except maybe minitrucks.
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Lounge / Anyone Tried PlastiDip?
Quote from: Shadow;384738
HA.. you sound like a grumpy old fart who sprays kids with a hose from his porch.. i dislike your opinion, GREATLY.. while plastidip does seem to be stupid, i have to greatly disagree with you and your dislike for satin black.. satin black looks 100 times better than any shade of yellow, most shades of white and (obvious statement here) a million times better than doodoo brown.. i must admit, most people can't pull things together to make it look right.. and 'murdering it out' is lame in my opinion ( i hate window tint, but that's only scratching the surface)..

If they're on my lawn they should be sprayed with a garden hose lol

I didn't forbid anyone from doing It, I just said I don't and won't understand the attraction besides it being cheap and popular. It just seems (to me) like another shallow method of "standing out from the crowd" amongst the luxury car crowd in the same way big wheels were, body colored lips on dished wheels, ect. were for them over the last decade. And before that, car phones, body kits, and even further than that, yes, the colors yellow and brown. perspective is a bitch aint it?

In the same way those colors look like  to you today, matte black will look the same way in the future. I've seen nice cars with it and I'll concede they can look downright classy in the right light and if they avoid dust, rain, dirt, tree sap, tar, or brake dust they might even keep their finish looking good for a month or two.
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Lounge / Anyone Tried PlastiDip?
Best use I've found for plastidip is restoring rubberized interior or exterior trim pieces.

I have never understood the attraction to the matte black look for a full exterior paint job. It looks as trashy on $200 beaters as it does on 100k Audis. It's just another fad, a particularly repulsive one at that(on the same level as underglow and fart cans) Anything that can change the entire look of a car for less than $100 generally makes the whole car look like it's worth less than $100.

And that whole "being creative and innovative" thing is bunk. It's lazyness. It's all been done before, it's all been tried, it's all been duplicated. Everyone painting their cars with plastidip isn't being original. They're all just copying some guy who at some point who was too cheap or had bad enough taste to paint their whole car with it. Now it's all the rage with those who shop autozone and hardware stores for their "custom" cars and even has tutorials on how to do it "right". Of course like all fads, everyone who has partited in it later sells their cars for s value because it looks like such utter  or gets real paint for the same reason.

In the end the PI swap on TCCoA is still popular after all these years and probably whatever the hell the Honda guys use as well. Why? It works perfectly. It's not some flash in the pan fad created for attention but rather a way to actually improve the car without hacking it or making it dynamically worse to live with.
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Suspension/Steering / Odd question about hubs and 4 lug
Quote from: 1BadBird;384089
Hey Matt, Glad to see ya here!!

Bakstoy from TCCoA


Good to see you John! I thought you might be here lol I've been tooling up for my currently phantom Fox Cougar build over the last year or so, so I'll probably be around here more often.

Are you still doing the shop warming meet in May or whenever?
 
Quote from: Haystack;384096
I have the vic "turbines" on my wagon, and I love the way they look. Not sure how it would do under a fox though.

Why not just use tc or mustang brakes and do the 11" brakes that way?


Mostly to utilize the aluminum 2 pot PBR calipers which require SN95 spindles. If there was a way to use them on Fox spindles with the 11" hub/rotor I'd definitely do it.

As for the other turbines, nah I like the looks of the 4 lug ones. Plus I scored a full set of Cougar center caps for them yesterday. I can't let those unicorns go to waste;)
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Suspension/Steering / Odd question about hubs and 4 lug
Probably right. I think Focus rear hubs could have been viable since they're the press in style deal but I'd worry that they aren't strong enough for a 3500 lb front engine RWD application since they're from the back of a front heavy sub 3,000lb car. Plus from what I've seen the shaft is smaller as well.

My big reservation with redrilling the factory hubs is that they have extra casting humps around the studs only which means a few, if not all studs won't seat properly when they're pressed in and will be on a less reinforced section of the hub. Rotors though I'd be less reserved about

I'll probably just put this on the back burner for now since it's not a high priority project yet. Thanks for the input!
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Suspension/Steering / Odd question about hubs and 4 lug
The turbines should fit fine, us MN12ers have been stuffing the PBRs under the stock 15" fanblades/snowflakes without issue. My Cobras on my 94 though required 17" wheels at a minimum.

Most googling pertaining to this is pretty much limited to 5 lug conversions and 4 lugs brake upgrades seem to end at the usual Lincoln type caliper upgrades. This idea seems like uncharted territory from the looks of things.
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Suspension/Steering / Odd question about hubs and 4 lug
This is a very out there question since I can't imagine there's much desire to do so BUT in the world of foxes, mixing and matching parts is second nature, so I imagine someone sometime maybe has looked into this... Does anyone know of any 4 lug hub/bearing assemblies that happen directly fit the SN95 spindles? Sort of a 5 lug conversion without the 5 lugs :hick:

I somehow got the thought in my head of using stock 15" XR7 turbines with PBRs.
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Misc Tech / Steering sensor?
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;356430
Actually that's not what it's for. These cars do not have variable assist. It's for the electronic ride control in your 87/88 TC (no other Fox thundercat has it). The PRC computer monitors steering wheel angle and rotation speed and stiffens up the shocks if it thinks you're driving frisky. If you're keeping your PRC you need it, otherwise turf it.

My bad, I'm used to the MN12 setup. In that case yeah, it's useless.